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  •  I actually do not understand (2+ / 0-)
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    the Iran policy from either side. Do we want a solution or do we want to just shake a stick and shout a lot? What exactly does it mean when you say that we would not "tolerate" a nuclear Iran? Everything the US and its allies are doing is telling the mullahs that nukes are the only way to real security. If I were an Iranian leader, I would be working as hard as possible to get to the deployable device stage.

    In negotiations, particularly acrimonious ones, there is an essential feature that every good negotiator builds. It's called "the golden bridge of retreat". Always define a path for your opponent to walk away with their dignity and pride as intact as possible. In every conflict, you should be asking what the post-conflict world should look like, not from your point of view so much as from your opponent's. What is is Iran really wants? Why would any State acquire nuclear weapons? Iran is probably no different than Pakistan, India or any other country that has gone down this path. You go after nukes because you feel vulnerable to attack or invasion. Nukes buy insurance. So, the solution with Iran is to try to convince them that a comprehensive deal is possible that includes normalization of relations, lifting of sanctions, etc, if they make certain adjustments to their foreign policy and drop the nukes. We would guarantee Iran that their security is assured and they can become a normal nation. It's at the time an opponent feels most under threat that this is the time to make such offers.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 03:02:23 PM PDT

    •  The mullahs in Iran (2+ / 0-)
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      have made it clear, repeatedly, that they do not want and are not planning to develop a nuclear weapon.  They are smart enough to know having one would put them directly in the sights of the U.S. and Israel, both of which have itchy trigger fingers.  Only the bat-shit crazy Ahmadinejad says things like that to stir things up - and his final term as president is quickly coming to an end, Aug. 3, 2013

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 03:49:09 PM PDT

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      •  I expect the person who succeeds Ahmadinejad... (0+ / 0-)

        ...will engage in similar "bat-shit crazy" as it is pretty much intended primarily for domestic political consumption.

        The nominally secular puppets that are "Mullah-approved" are only concerned with staying in favor for the duration of their terms, and if "bat-shit crazy" is what is required, then "bat-shit crazy" will be the order of the day.

        When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

        by Egalitare on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 04:48:38 PM PDT

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      •  Many people, including the President, (0+ / 0-)

        would disagree with you on that. Also, where and when did the mullahs in Iran make that so clear?

        For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

        by Anne Elk on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 05:34:35 PM PDT

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        •  The Leadership Council in Iran has (0+ / 0-)

          been refuting charges of planning to build a nuclear weapon for at least two years.  Reuters reported in August  that at this summer's Non-Aligned Movement summit held in Tehran, Iran's Supreme Leader's speech once again made the point:

          DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran has no interest in nuclear weapons but will keep pursuing peaceful nuclear energy, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told heads of state from developing countries in Tehran.
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          "Our motto is nuclear energy for all and nuclear weapons for none," Khamenei told the assembled heads of state.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 05:33:08 PM PDT

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