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  •  It's done and there's no point (4+ / 0-)

    obsessing over it. Yes the debate hurt, but there's evidence that the polls are recovering, and that we can put it behind us, starting with Biden on Thursday. There's also no point in "Mr. President are you listening!?" rants, because I can assure you that Axe, Plouffe, Gibbs, etc. don't like the media coverage anymore than we do, and they're taking the next debate very seriously. Otherwise, it's just compulsive fretting and head banging. You think if he were to lose you're going to be proud of being defeatist 29 days out?

    Let's look at a comparison: were Republicans saying "Oh no we're fucked! Why did Romney have to be so fucking stupid!?" after the "47%" tape was released and he was devastated for two weeks in the polls?

    •  You mean the 47% tape that Obama completely... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...neglected to bring up?I'm sure that Axelrod and Plouffe and Gibbs are taking these subsequent debates very seriously. But that then begs the question: did they not take the first one seriously? Were they under the impression  that Romney would come to Denver

      Cogito. Ergo sum ​​atheus.

      by Neapolitan on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 05:32:42 PM PDT

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      •  It is possible to get outmaneuvered, ya know (3+ / 0-)
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        ddn, OllieGarkey, wishingwell

        The D Team's method so far has been to stand back and let Rmoney trip all over himself.  Why expect something different?  Now that they know he's got the Manic Gish Gallop chip installed and running, it's time to change tactics, and they will.  

        Let's say Obama brings up the 47% tape.  Rmoney says "I didn't mean that."  Oh boy, another lie.  What then?  Yes you did, no I didn't for five minutes?  The video spoke for itself.  People saw it and they understand.  

        I swear, have you never, ever been surprised by an enemy's actions?  Has a superior foe never lost a battle to a weaker force?  Did you really believe this was all going to be smooth sailing?  

        Most importantly, are you giving up now?

        •  Thanks you gave a better response than I did below (2+ / 0-)
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          OllieGarkey, wishingwell

          Romney was expecting that line of attack, and he would have just lied, spun his way through it until he or Lehrer changed the subject. The bottom line is that it doesn't have the impact unless you see and hear the actual video. Otherwise a lot of people who hadn't been paying attention would probably think "Nah he couldn't have actually said that".

      •  There's a good argument against bringing that up (3+ / 0-)
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        OllieGarkey, jan4insight, wishingwell

        Romney certainly was prepared with a scripted response for that. You think anyone who hadn't seen the video or read the remarks would have the same impression if Obama was to bring it up and then have Romney spin it? Obama was probably waiting for Lehrer to bring it up.

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