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  •  i haven't given up. far from it. (3+ / 0-)

    i just can't help but wonder if Obama just doesn't want it that bad after last week.  i think Andrew is wondering the same thing.  what other fucking reason is there for him not even engaging in the debate last week?  he acted like he was having a nice conversation with Romney.  my cat has more passion when it meows for attention than Obama did last week.  either he was tired or he's just tired of it.  imo.  god i hope it was the first one.  but in any case, i am in this for the long game and Obama has done more than i'll ever do, so, if he's out of steam then the only thing i blame him for is for accepting the nomination again.

    so long and thanks for all the fish

    by Anton Bursch on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 07:57:20 PM PDT

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    •  I know President Obama wants it (1+ / 0-)
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      and I know OFA wants it.  The GOTV efforts are barely talked about it, but we are knocking it out.  We made 2000 calls this past weekendfor OFA in East Texas in Florida.  That has been happening on a weekly basis since Labor Day.  In East Texas, that doesn't happen much, if ever.  We are making it a habit.

      Barack Obama for President '12

      by v2aggie2 on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 08:50:06 PM PDT

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    •  There are all kinds (1+ / 0-)
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      of reasons for a bad night.  We have been spoiled by an almost flawless Obama campaign to this point.

      My God, look what the republicans put up with from Mitt till they finally began to go rogue?  Not one bad night caused that, but rather months of a bad campaign finally got GOP pundits to call Mitt out.

      But for some Democrats, it only takes one pin in their bubble to turn them into a pile of smoldering concern and lack of confidence.

      Hold on to your hat. Politics is not for the feint of heart.

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 09:56:02 PM PDT

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      •  I can wait (0+ / 0-)

        until the books come out next year with all the "inside dirt" to tell us whether it was a toothache, bad news from the middle east, or whatever.

        •  Well, for my money, (1+ / 0-)
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          I'd say it was a combination of things.  The presidential bubble, the presidential onus to be both a president and a candidate, and last but not least, "common wisdom" advice that went terribly wrong.

          You know, no one I can think of here has mentioned the fact that in the days leading up to the debate, pretty much all of the pundits agreed that all Obama had to do was to do no harm.  If I had a dollar for every time I heard them say, all Obama has to do is not make a gaff.  The onus is entirely on Mitt.

          LOL, they sure all ran away from that notion post debate, and couldn't wait to wash their hands of any such thought.

          Which is NOT to say Obama doesn't deserve the brunt of this. The buck stops at his desk. And he knows that. Whatever you want to say about Barack Obama, he's not a whiner.  He takes his punches without making excuses.  Which is a whole lot more than I can say about Mitt, who has whined like a stuck pig throughout this entire election.

          "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

          by StellaRay on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 10:39:59 PM PDT

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          •  Take one example (1+ / 0-)
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            Mitt was harping on the damned "$716 million" Medicare number, and I kept waiting for Barack to refute that as "savings, NOT cuts" or some such, yet ... crickets.

            I maintain that the prez was rattled by the manic spewing of outright lies. And no, he ain't no whiner at all. I'm confident he'll be able to handle whatever craziness comes up.

            •  Yep, (0+ / 0-)

              there's no denying Obama was on another planet that night.  I watched the debate with a debate party of staunch democrats and we were ALL yelling at the TV, yelling at Obama to wake up and look alive.

              I agree, he was rattled by Mitt's lies, but this is part of the "bubble" effect. The rest of us know that Mitt has done nothing but lie, and/or reverse his position, for months. That should not have been a surprise to Obama or his advisors. Suffice to say, they have all been greatly humbled, and humility imo, always leads to strength.

              "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

              by StellaRay on Mon Oct 08, 2012 at 11:09:01 PM PDT

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