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  •  Morning Joe is correct (5+ / 0-)
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    LaurenMonica, bws, live1, earicicle, Lying eyes

    According to BrooklynBadBoy who has a top rec'd diary right here on this very site.

    BBB is considering the PEW poll his holy grail of polling, and  has declared that women want a macho bullying, lying man who will FIGHT for them and they decided that Romney is their guy after the debates.

    So after one scripted 90-minute all the women suddenly went rushing to Mitt's arms. Even Michelle Obama wanted to "go home with Mitt" and have an affair, according to a diary posted a few days ago.

    So why are you making fun of Morning Joe? After all, the top rec'd diary on this site says that Morning Joe is correct.

    •  I have always considered Pew as an outlier even (3+ / 0-)
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      when Obama was leading, their margin was way to big.

      "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

      by LaurenMonica on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 07:38:15 AM PDT

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    •  BBB has a point, but I would not overstate it. (8+ / 0-)

      Romney may have improved among white working class women voters.  That said, no other poll shows that an end to the gender gap.  Romney made it closer, but the polls show Obama still winning.  Pew is an outlier, way off.  There still is a gender gap.  

      By the end of the week, the narrative will change to Obama's comeback.    

      I think Nate Silver is objective, even if he supports Obama.  He sees the Romney gains, but does not over state them as others do.

      The best thing (or silver lining) is that many will tune into the next presidential debate to see Obama and I think Obama will do much better (more agressive, giving the audience a show).   It's Obama's race to win or lose.  That's good.   If Obama does well in the next two debates, he will be re-elected and this will be forgotten.

      I'll put my hopes on Barack Obama doing well.

      I'm glad Barack Obama is our President.

      by TomP on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 07:39:24 AM PDT

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      •  Basically exactly as I see this as well (2+ / 0-)
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        Thanks for articulating all of this clearly and sanely. I strongly question Pew as an outlier because of something in its methodology giving an 18 point bump for Romney with women after a 90 minuted debate where Romney threatened to "fire" Big Bird. That has gone over the least well with moms, for obvious reasons. It is implausibly large. I also think that Obama will (he has to) do better in the next debate, and I think that if he does ever relatively well, he will regain a huge amount of footing -- perhaps more than anticipated, even.

        Right now, he's in the underdog position. A lot of people are holding their breath waiting to see him recover. He is a great debater and orator (Clinton mocked his exemplary oration skills for a reason). I think if he gives a good performance next time, we'll see a bump there. I know it may not be as large as hoped simply because we're getting closer to the election, so peoples' candidates are growing more calcified. I think though that if he gives a great performance, he could pick up a few who swung into Romney's camp based on that debate, that fickle, small, undecided contingency.

        Calling something an outlier doesn't mean it's skewed or it's a conspiracy. There's just something off about it's methodology.

    •  I like Triple B but sometimes (1+ / 0-)
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      he's  just flat out  wrong.  This is one of those times.

      Proud Big Bird Democrat

      by Lying eyes on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 09:40:51 AM PDT

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