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  •  wiki says Carnegie Institute (1+ / 0-)
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    StellaRay

    absolutely nothing about the start up using federal moneys. You must be mistaken.

    President of PBS Paula Kerger says you are wrong. She stated the Fed moneys, 12% of budget goes to member stations.

    Kerger also fact-checked Romney -- who she has tussled with before -- pointing out that PBS doesn't get any direct money from the government.

    "In fact, the money that comes from the government into the Corporation for Public Broadcasting goes to our member stations," she said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Happy to lend a hand.

    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 08:35:19 PM PDT

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    •  Straight from Wiki... (0+ / 0-)

      "Funding

      As a result of Cooney's initial proposal in 1968, the Carnegie Institute awarded her an $8 million ($51 million in 2012 dollars[2]) grant to create a new children's television program and establish the CTW,[3][38] renamed in 2000 to the Sesame Workshop (SW). Cooney and Morrisett procured additional multi-million dollar grants from the US federal government..."

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 07:00:17 AM PDT

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      •  Past. Current funding, or maybe the last 2-3 years (0+ / 0-)

        Cooney resigned a while ago

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        Loyd Morrisett is 82 and has not been active for about a decade.

        http://investing.businessweek.com/...

        Facts about the early years are nice, but have no bearing on the current funding picture.

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 01:37:41 PM PDT

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        •  SIGH. (0+ / 0-)

          Since you're a stickler for the facts, I'm going to come right back at you.  Here's what I wrote in the comment you replied to:

          "Actually, federal funds were more than partially responsible for the Sesame Street Start up."

          And, multi-million dollar federal grants, according to Wiki, makes that statement true.

          Furthermore, I said:

          "And although tax payers do not write a check to Big Bird per say, they do subsidize PBS."

          Regardless of where PBS puts that funding---as they and you say, in satellite operations, it cannot be denied that the federal government helps to subsidize PBS. If that's not true, then many would have pointed that out long before now, considering the GOP's incessant battle against PBS.

          Forest. Trees.  

          "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

          by StellaRay on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 04:29:29 PM PDT

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          •  My comment here (0+ / 0-)

            http://www.dailykos.com/...

            Says Big Bird doesnt get  fed funds.

            You responded

            "Au contraire"

            And went back in time to 1968.

            Yes you are right, Federal funds were used in the start up.

            Big Bird did get Fed funds.

            Yes I am right, Big Bird doesnt get federal funds.

            FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

            by Roger Fox on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 05:35:14 PM PDT

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            •  imo, you do not understand (0+ / 0-)

              the simple political fact that PBS is smart enough to decide WHERE to put its federal grants these days.

              But whatever our disagreements, it is simply unarguable that federal funds got Big Bird off the ground, as per my post that you chose to argue with.  

              And, in that they continue to support PBS, in one way or the other, they continue to support the free transmission of Sesame Street.

              The ultimate question is whether you think PBS will be hurt, and hurt badly, by a total withdrawal of federal funding.  This seems to be what you are willing to argue with to be right. If the GOP gets its way, we'll see how well your argument holds up.

              Again. Trees. Forest.

              "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

              by StellaRay on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 05:58:00 PM PDT

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