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  •  It's not your party afilliation, it's your (0+ / 0-)

    understanding of Glass Steagall, which, btw, addressed much more than  the separation of retail and commercial banking.  It's primary function had to do with international commerce.  If you knew this, you wouldn't throw Clinton under the bus!!!!

    Why do people who call you RETARDED get elected to office? HMMM?

    by ChiTownDenny on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 01:43:04 PM PDT

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    •  democrat with a little d isn't a party affiliation (0+ / 0-)

      it describes an individual who believes in democratic principles, like, say for example, freedom to speak even unpalatable thoughts and to discuss them in an open arena of ideas.

      A democrat does not tell people to stop talking.

      And I posted a link to Clinton himself admitting to problems with his support of financial deregulation that went beyond merely Glass-Steagall.

      Some people seem to think that repeal of Glass-Steagall was an issue:

      Just a small sampling of thought that isn't mine, has more expertise behind it than mine,  Roubini  has certainly been spot on for predicting much of what deregulation was doing to the economy, and doesn't agree with you.

      •  Gawd. I actually engaged in the right side of (0+ / 0-)

        the blog.  My bad, and I should know better.  
        Go  ahead and trash Clinton and anyone you feel deserves trashing.   But my dick is still bigger than yours.  UGH>

        Why do people who call you RETARDED get elected to office? HMMM?

        by ChiTownDenny on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 02:23:35 PM PDT

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        •  what a rude and sexist remark (0+ / 0-)

          I have no dick, unless this brief acquaintance with you counts as acquiring one.

          And last time I looked, Roubini isn't considered right wing.  Neither is the Roosevelt Institute typically accused of being right wing.

          IF you meant, correct, in reference to the blog,  you might be right.

          •  I agree with your original point but (0+ / 0-)

            it pains me to say so because you have been so nasty on this thread.  Why respond to those with whom you think you disagree with such a nasty tone?  I see no reason to do that.

            I was speaking about Bill's campaigning instincts, his political saavy, not his domestic finance wizardry.  There are many things Clinton did that I shudder to think were done by a Democrat.  

            I still respect him for all the things he did right, however, and there were many of those as well.


            by keeplaughing on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 03:51:20 PM PDT

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            •  my apologies (0+ / 0-)

              I truly was in a grumpy mood.

              What upset me most was that instead of just telling me in so many words, but yes, he's still a good campaigner and that's what we're talking about,  I tended to get denials.

              Now that you have explained what you meant, I can say I took it a totally different way.  I thought you referenced his time as president, not what Clinton is doing now.  I was agitated because while Sybil Liberty admitted Clinton's fault, everyone else seemed to be acting as if I had told a lie, Clinton wasn't part of the triangulation/corporatist deregulation, that he was just 'awesome' as a President.

              I am still deadly serious about what I perceive as a thread of commentary about how Obama is so much lesser as  a President.  He has some terrible flaws in terms of his Presidency (drones, domestic spying, etc.), but in many ways, compared to Clinton and Bush, he seems, at least to me, as the truly more well rounded and ethical person.  He has awesome political skills, even if he is more technocrat than hail fellow well met in his demeanor.  He was a black man with a foreign, Islamic name,  who won the Presidency,while we were at war with a country formerly led by a man with a similar name, beating out Hillary Clinton, in part because women are actually still worse off in terms of acceptance among some groups than african american males,  but still by being the stronger candidate, and winning a national election, albeit in a very democratic year, by a sizeable margin.   That alone is one of the greatest political feats ever.

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