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  •  Which they don't (6+ / 0-)

    Here's the thing.  Watch the debate with the sound off.  Forget what they say, it's only how they look that matters.  Who looks like the alpha male in the room?  Americans cre about nothing else

    Never believe your own press, never drink your own KoolAid

    by Mindful Nature on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 10:08:21 AM PDT

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    •  I will grant that instinct-driven humans are (8+ / 0-)

      directed by imitation and repetition. They ape the behavior of those they admire in the troop. When one adds speech to the mix of instinctive behaviors, it tends to mask the irrational. Because speech is included in the things they imitate. So, the trick in the debate was not only to deny Willard the opportunity to play off or ape Obama, but to let him make a fool of himself by topping the other male in the room, which he did.  Jim Lehrer did good, as Obama correctly observed.  He let Willard showcase himself without forcing him over the edge.
      What I perceive is that Obama refused to lower himself to Willard's lever and get in the mud and wrestle.  So, Willard had no choice but to turn on the male who would engage.  And it wasn't pretty.  Obama standing on the sidelines wasn't pretty either.  But wrestling with Willard would have been worse.

      We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 11:01:33 AM PDT

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    •  Actually, I don't think that's true (27+ / 0-)

      Back during the run up to the Iraq war, I got together with a group of women friends of mine. I went off into one of my rants about how frustrating it was that the country seemed to have lost its collective mind, and was believing stuff that had already been debunked (e.g., the yellowcake garbage).

      One of my friends said she knew nothing about that. She said, frankly, that she's been so busy just trying to make ends meet that she has had no time to sort out the competing claims. She just didn't know what to think. She cared, a lot. She just didn't have the time to be her own fact checking machine.

      I think a lot of Americans are like that. The problems of their lives consume them. They don't really know what to think, but it they hear people on tv saying things confidently and it kind of sort of makes sense, they'll go with that.

      What Americans heard after the debate was a pretty unified sound wall, from both left and right, that Obama lost. Now, as we all well know, that storyline is only true if you actually DID watch the debate with the sound off. But if that's the point, maybe we should just be voting for handsome actors as president. Because what they do as president doesn't matter, right? It's only how they look. Come on. You don't really believe that.

      Left leaning pundits whiffed on their jobs, but so did we. We did not make the case for the president after the debate, a case that was strong and surely true.

      I can only hope we won't repeat that mistake again after the remaining debates.

      •  Electing good looking actors? (0+ / 0-)

        Seems we passed that bar sometime around 1980.  But sadly I kind of do believe what they want to, and are less concerned with the truth of it.  Being overworked has a lot to answer for

        Never believe your own press, never drink your own KoolAid

        by Mindful Nature on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 03:42:49 PM PDT

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        •  That kind of thing really isn't new. (4+ / 0-)

          Grover Cleveland, worst President ever, was the choice of a deadlocked convention, because he looked imposing, handsome, serious, Presidential.  Complete idiot, womanizer with no interest in Presidency.  His Karl Rove got him into power.  

          I know it seems like we're in the worst swamp ever but this is more average and normal than abnormal.  What makes it feel different and overwhelming is there's so much more info out there to sort through.  

          We've never been a model of mental health politically, our Press has almost always been controlled by the Robber Barons of the era, Rush isn't any crazier or more viciously destructive than Father Coughlin, McCarthy wasn't a fluke, he's the norm for paranoid Republican ideology and hate-mongering from the beginning of the party until now.  

          The far left of the time ranted about FDR's weakness, his sellouts, the watered down versions of the social programs we now revere.  

          We don't even fight about different issues generation to generation - it's about the 99% vs the 1%, leveling playing fields, corruption in politics caused by money, a lousy 4th Estate failing the people.  Conservatives always want to go backwards, Liberals always fight about which direction forward really is.

          The downside of the internet is it tends to make us think we're far more important and influential than we really are.  Our only power is through the ballot box, fighting for the people who are closest to what we think we really want.  

          I'm not looking for a love that will lift me up and carry me away. A love that will stroll alongside and make a few amusing comments will suffice.

          by I love OCD on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:54:17 PM PDT

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