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  •  I don't buy it (3+ / 0-)
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    If it were wrestling, the match would be rigged.

    If it's rigged, please tell me which candidate is going to win.

    If it's rigged, why vote? If it's rigged, why GOTV? If it's rigged, why donate money?

    Sorry, but fuck that. There is a difference between the two parties and the two candidates. Is it as much of a difference as I would like? No. My nickname is Comrade, if that gives you any indication of my political leanings.

    But to sit here and compare the American political process to some fixed wrestling matches is just childish and frankly overdone analysis.

    Take Occam to this and you'll see not a conspiracy, but a series of self-interested calculations. The problem, as always, is MONEY.

    The candidates need money to compete. With unlimited donors, this limits what candidates can reasonably advocate, which limits who can truly emerge as a candidate for office.

    Media needs money to operate. Billions in political ads, plus a few hundred million eyeballs per week certainly sells newspapers and tv/radio ads.

    Big Media Personalities are in it to make money as well, but this time for themselves more than any company. They are a brand. Bill O'Reilly is a brand, as is Limbaugh, Maddow, etc. They see news, they filter it through their brand, and they report it/opine on it.

    Corporations are acting rationally as well, too -- just not in a way that we like or in a way that is compatible with democracy. It is perfectly rational to spend $20 million on lobbying to get $500 million or more in defense contracts.

    So no, it's not pro wrestling. It is a lot more like pro boxing, where you have an interlocked group of self-interested people (boxers, promoters, managers, pay-per-view companies, tv companies, advertisers) circling around the sport like vultures.

    They aren't in on some conspiracy and they're acting purely out of self-interest.

    Want to fix the system? Get the money out of it. Want to get the money out of it? Quit voting for asshole Republicans who put other asshole Republicans on the Supreme Court.

    I know you're a regular diarist and I'm just some guy, but still, this particular entry is just garbage. Go piss on someone else's parade; we have an election to win.

    •  yea, this is like anti-GOTV (4+ / 0-)

      I mean, its a cool analogy and all. And its even more awesome for being written by a smark. But it's a passionate case for staying home and withdrawing from the political process altogether imho.

      "See? I'm not a racist! I have a black friend!"

      by TheHalfrican on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 04:22:29 PM PDT

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    •  well this regular guy (0+ / 0-)

      pretty much agrees with you and you certainly said it better and in more detail then me

    •  that is a very mature intervention (0+ / 0-)

      "I know you're a regular diarist and I'm just some guy, but still, this particular entry is just garbage. Go piss on someone else's parade; we have an election to win."

      You are to be commended. You are making a very erudite and well researched observation.

      Go read Democracy Inc. and come back to the convo and we can chat.

    •  Who's going to win? (0+ / 0-)

      Goldman Sachs.

      Just like at what happened after 2008 election. Not saying don't vote for Obama. I intend to vote for him. But I have no illusion as to who will come out of the election on top, no matter which candidate ends up in the White House.

      "Today is who you are" - my wife

      by I Lurked For Years on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 05:19:19 AM PDT

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