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  •  President Obama and his team knew (3+ / 0-)
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    otto, eztempo, amsterdam

    ...exactly what to expect at the debate. So did every single person in this community. A high political IQ was not required. Anyone who watched the Republican primaries and Mitt's stump speeches could have predicted Mitt's debate style with precision.

    I find it absurd to think, for a moment, that somehow the Obama team was caught unaware on the debate stage.

    Not in this universe.

    The Obama campaigns are always handled with laser-sharp deliberation. Every single detail.

    That's my position.


    A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

    by Pluto on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 02:57:05 PM PDT

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    •  I don't give that much credit (3+ / 0-)
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      Pluto, abraxas, Sophie Amrain

      If you were asked if they would plan to tank it this badly before the debate had happened, would you have said "yes" with the amount of certainty that you do in hindsight?

      Incarceration Nation has a Jail Jones to feed its Imprisonment Addiction

      by otto on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 04:34:32 PM PDT

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      •  Well... then there's not much left. (4+ / 0-)
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        GayHillbilly, eztempo, Creosote, amsterdam

        Your position is that either the Obama campaign were the only people in the United States of America who did not know that Mitt's talking points would be a stream of preposterous lies -- or the President cannot think and pivot in real time.

        As to your question:  If there were one debate and one debate only -- rather than a linear progression of debates, each built upon the next -- then I would expect President to burst forth like a star and dazzle the nation.


        A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

        by Pluto on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 04:55:41 PM PDT

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        •  Ditto, Pluto. (2+ / 0-)
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        •  I think you misunderstand my point (0+ / 0-)

          I am not determined to say that Obama won.  I'm questioning the judgment you are making.  

          It's a hindsight judgment.  

          I think it's only fair that you answer the question, and that you answer it within the actual context of the number of debates that actually are in play.  

          I don't think that many people would have seriously said that they think Obama and his team would intentionally have a lackluster performance.  

          I simply think he and his prep team were faced with a different Romney than they thought they had before.  

          Incarceration Nation has a Jail Jones to feed its Imprisonment Addiction

          by otto on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 07:34:40 AM PDT

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