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  •  The abortion comments by Ryan were not received (5+ / 0-)

    well by the women on the CNN undecided tracking line last night. It dipped a great deal. I think it may be possible that more Democratic and Independent women will now show up to vote once these womens health issues are the topic like the end of last night.

    If the white working class women liked Mitt being strong, energeitc, aggressive, they would also love Joe being strong, energetic , aggressive.  Time will tell.

    I know all the experts say the VP Debate does not move polls. But after 36 years volunteering and doing GOTV, it sure as hell fires up Democrats like few debates before.
    I think this VP Debate may just be different in that Joe was that strong on all the issues and he was full of passion. Voters like to see passion and someone fighting for them. They got that last night in spades.

    I would not be shocked to see Obama gain a point from the Biden debate as strong and passionate as Joe was.

    And if the President does well Tuesday , but I doubt the media will give him credit as more than half the media thinks last night was a tie, we may see some movement in that squishy miiddle as often swing voters go back and forth several times before settling on their choice.

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    by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:39:32 PM PDT

    •  Well, I think we all knew Romney was going to be (5+ / 0-)

      called the winner of last week's debate regardless of what happened. But that didn't matter. The problem was that Obama didn't defend himself, make his case against Romney, or outline why he deserved to be reelected or that it was necessary to reelect him.

      Had he done that the media would have called it a draw or whatever like they did last night. But it wouldn't have mattered. Those folks who were "eh...maybe Obama" would have said "definitely Obama" and this race would be over.

      •  Excellent point, I expected MSM would say Mitt (1+ / 0-)
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        won even if he did not or it was a tie.   We knew that going on.  We just never anticipated he would have such a clear win.  

        Media is drooling now as this is what they wanted...a very close election for ratings. Their dreams have come true.  Ugh !

        Granted, that Debate and how the President performed is the big thing but it did not help that the media harped on the debate for a solid week. They hardly stopped to take a breath. It was way over the top , yet they call the Debate last night a Tie.  Good Grief !

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        by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:55:52 PM PDT

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      •  Mostly true (2+ / 0-)
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        Just by showing up and looking credible and not making any killer gaffes, Romney was bound to increase his support. But Obama's negative performance created 'negative synergy' and turned what would have otherwise been a 2-3% softer bounce into a 5-6% harder bounce.

        Win or lose, in the future political campaigns will warn their candidates not to pull an "Obama". :(

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