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    Killer of Sacred Cows

    One has to distinguish between the biblical version of these people which gave them the power of seeing into the future and talking to god, and the actual people that many of them were likely based on (including Jesus), who most likely were social critics a la Socrates, Spinoza or Paine, whom the people who wrote the bible imbued with these paranormal powers for purely PR reasons.

    The people who wrote the bible and promoted the religions based on them used the actual historical Moses, Jeremiah and Jesus et al to promote their religions to a mostly ignorant and superstitious public, by turning them into the voices of god, if not god itself. It's not at all unlike what the right has done to the founders.

    See a pattern there?

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 10:29:08 AM PDT

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    •  The common theme... (5+ / 0-)

      ... of the "discussions with god" that set up all these religions are that this supreme being is invisible and speaks from burning bushes that don't burn, or during delusions while wandering in the desert and either starving from lack of food or extremely dehydrated from lack of water (or both).

      The thing is, if a supreme being exists, why doesn't he/she/it appear to EVERYONE while they are conscious and in charge of their mental faculties..., and not delusional from cold at high altitudes on a mountain and/or wandering the hot desert in a state of extreme hunger and/or thirst...?

      If this supreme being does exist, I will believe so when it appears to me without asking for money and I can sit down at a table and have a discussion over dinner; I have a few questions about why it allows evil people and things to flourish and harm innocents if evil can be eliminated.  Epicurus said it better:

      “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
      Then he is not omnipotent.
      Is he able, but not willing?
      Then he is malevolent.
      Is he both able and willing?
      Then whence cometh evil?
      Is he neither able nor willing?
      Then why call him God?”

      Epicurus, Greek philosopher, 341-270 BCE

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:15:13 PM PDT

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      •  I was with a friend of mine at a comic book con (2+ / 0-)
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        at a bar after the show (we were selling books) and someone from the local church walked up to us.  This church had been holding protests outside the hall and handed out leaflets to the con-goers, basically telling them they were damned for reading this filth, etc. etc. etc.  

        The church guy began telling us all about the wonders of being saved, how God could do anything, save sinners and heal the sick.  

        My buddy went along with him, asking if God could really heal anything.  

        Yes, yes!  He knew of people who had been cured of cancer, epilepsy, etc.  

        Oh, said my friend.  What about this?  And he held up his hand, missing one finger that he'd taken off with a radial saw many years back.  Can God grow this back for me if I join your church?

        The guy left without another word.

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