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  •  Kids emerge from the public schools (4+ / 0-)

    ... and from private schools with the same belief.  Religious families with no respect for science participate in all forms of schooling.

    •  Please clarify what the "same belief" is... (3+ / 0-)
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      There is a variety of belief structures among even secular private schools and among public schools.  Learning delivered by human beings to other human beings is not a mechanized process like producing the same McDonald's hamburger and fries wherever you go to buy one.  Even secular private schools can have a philosophical bent to the progressive or conservative side.  Public schools can have very different philosophical bents depending on whether they are focused on teaching to the test (particularly when they have students from disadvantaged communities) or not (if their students come form more well to do families where they can learn the basics outside of school).

      Seems to me their will always be a range of "respect" for various world views represented in all forms of education.

      For example, I believe in the persistence of human consciousness after death, a view of things not accepted by mainstream science.  Though I did not tell my kids that was the only truth, I did share with them this belief and did not caveat it by saying, "but by the law of the state of California I'm required to tell you that this is not a state accepted belief that I'm sharing with you."

      Where is the line between sharing what you believe with your kids?  Certainly with all the ubiquitous media that kids have access to these days, even religiously indoctrinated kids will learn that other people think differently.  Why not let those kids address that world view discordance naturally when they encounter it, rather than forcing all other kids to be instructed, even indoctrinated, in a state approved curriculum?

      Cooper Zale Los Angeles

      by leftyparent on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 11:50:39 AM PDT

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      •  I was referring to this line: (1+ / 0-)
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        "... for example, believe the Earth is 6000 years old and what not."
        Their kids believe this no matter where they go to school.

        Trust me. I grew up surrounded by them. They've spent 40 years "witnessing" at me, to try to convert me. As a child, I was "born again" so many times, I have had enough lives to be a cat.

        Luckily it never stuck to me. However, their children are a very different story. People who grew up in the exact same school system, attending the same classes, with the same teachers somehow still emerged believing in young earth creationism and other ridiculous notions.  It's NOT the homeschooling, it's the home, the church, and the cult-like method of indoctrination.

        Those kids have grown up to be even more hardened in their attitudes - which, apparently, is the way most people deal with being bombarded with facts that counteract their beliefs. It's called the "backfire effect":

        “However, individuals who receive unwelcome information may not simply resist challenges to their views. Instead, they may come to support their original opinion even more strongly—what we call a “backfire effect.”
        •  I have hope for an "open" society... (0+ / 0-)

          where all the different belief structures are out there and being discussed and available for people to change from the one they grew up with if another seems more compelling.  

          I believe there is cause for hope here because statistically, young people tend to be less conservative than their parents and so there must be some people breaking away from the more conservative values they grew up with.

          Cooper Zale Los Angeles

          by leftyparent on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 02:18:49 PM PDT

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