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  •  Not quite the whole story on Ford... (23+ / 0-)

    According to this, the idea that Ford wanted his workforce to be able to buy his cars doesn't hold up when examined. He was paying them just enough more to get their loyalty, rather than having them go to other car makers.

    When workers started to unionize and negotiate, things got really ugly, including elements of racism, strikebreaking, company goons, and outright murder. Eventually Ford gave in - but it was never easy.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 07:59:41 PM PDT

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    •  Quite right. Good link for quick explanation. (4+ / 0-)

      Important clarification about the so-called "$5 Day," too: that wage only went to the (very few) deemed deserving of it, because of their conduct off the job.

    •  none the less: the meme is useful. (2+ / 0-)
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      The "Ford paid his workers enough to buy the cars they built" meme is a ferociously strong one in our culture, and it serves us very well rhetorically.

      Let the rightie-wingers come out and try to disparage that meme, and it will be they who have to open the doors to the discussion about labor struggles in the early 20th century.  Since they most certainly do not want to go there, they will avoid the subject, which lets us win on that point.

      "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

      by G2geek on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:54:40 AM PDT

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      •  I'll agree with one caveat (2+ / 0-)
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        Ford's workers still thought they were better off belonging to a union able to negotiate for a fair deal, rather than having to depend on the generosity of a Henry Ford. The supply of Fords is limited - and they still have their own agenda.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 03:57:44 AM PDT

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        •  all true, but make the righties explain that. (1+ / 0-)
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          Making them do the explaining puts them on the defensive.

          "Explaining" = playing defense.

          Defense loses, attack wins.  

          "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

          by G2geek on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 04:18:55 AM PDT

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