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  •  Not your comment, the original one. (1+ / 0-)

    Gonna have to brush up on my grammar terms here. I don't think the writer meant to diss a whole class but it is ambiguous.

    The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

    by emidesu on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 04:31:42 PM PDT

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    •  i think it is a horrible judgment to buy into. (1+ / 0-)
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      it is very akin to saying you can't have money and compassion at the saem time, money and balances at the same time, money and liberalism at the same time, and so much more in that vein.

      if we're going to get to the bottom of this, the bottom of this horrible impulse in our society now that is all about turning our backs on our national ideals and values, we're going to have to be as specific and concise with our language as much as is humanly possible.  if we're going to achieve true parity in this society, we won't do it by saying 'the privileged class routinely dismisses and views with contempt the 47%'.

      “And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.” ― William Gibson, Count Zero (-9.75 / -9.05)

      by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 04:44:13 PM PDT

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      •  You're pretty much preaching to the choir. (1+ / 0-)

        My background and experiences have involved meeting people from across the economic spectrum and I know there are plenty of good, generous and liberal rich people. As you said, language is an issue and one we should pay attention to. It is easier but less accurate to make unqualified statements. I would hope most people here don't think good and bad or conservative and progressive sort out by class background or financial status.

        The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

        by emidesu on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 08:19:12 PM PDT

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        •  and yet, i pulled that statement from (0+ / 0-)

          this thread.  somaybe the choir sometimes sings off-tune?  that's all that i intended to point out.

          “And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.” ― William Gibson, Count Zero (-9.75 / -9.05)

          by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Sun Oct 14, 2012 at 08:35:12 PM PDT

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          •  I'm wishing I had used a Venn diagram (0+ / 0-)

            to make my original point. But your point is taken as well.

            The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

            by emidesu on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:45:57 AM PDT

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          •  To clarify (I hope) (0+ / 0-)

            I read that person's comment as referring to the subset of the privileged class that regards the 47% as lazy and dependent.

            The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

            by emidesu on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:49:35 AM PDT

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