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  •  Rich people may get to a point (1+ / 0-)
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    where they shouldn't drive, but wealthy folks have chauffeurs.  Chauffeurs nowadays are called "drivers," to make the rest of us feel better.

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    by SueDe on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 10:49:26 AM PDT

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    •  You have to be mega-wealthy to have a driver (1+ / 0-)
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      not merely wealthy.

      Either that, or have your adult children drive you places.

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      by elfling on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 10:56:50 AM PDT

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      •  Umm...no, you don't have to be mega-wealthy. (0+ / 0-)

        Anyone with a business whose income is large enough to hire an employee (or an independent contractor) can hire a driver.  Many of the real estate agents I know in NYC, LA and San Francisco have drivers - especially those in NYC.  The agents make good money, but they're nowhere near mega-wealthy.

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        by SueDe on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 03:21:19 PM PDT

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        •  Indeed. In college (3+ / 0-)
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          one way I earned money was to drive for senior citizens who had moderate wealth.

          Drivers are a semi-skilled labor category that is easy to hire and not especially expensive.  It's similar to other service professions like gardener, nanny or maid - you can either hire an individual for lower cost, but be dependent on them being healthy, available, reliable, or you can hire a service to provide the individuals.  Hiring a service costs more but guarantees that the work is done (well, mostly.  I can name one gardening company where I live that we fired for unreliability).   Hiring an individual is usually on a cash basis, which might be a tad risky if you want to run for office someday.

          What makes a driver affordable is you don't hire them 100% of the time.  You choose when to run your errands etc and hire them for the hours that you need them.  Compared to the hassle and risk of public transport in most places for a senior citizen, it's money well spent.   It is considerably cheaper than a taxi or even airport shuttle, especially if you provide the vehicle. (but if you don't have to own/maintain the vehicle, that's saving you a lot of money that you can use to pay more for a driver+car)

          •  That seems to be compared to the hassle and ... (0+ / 0-)

            ... risk of public transport in an area with inadequate public transport. Its a way to take advantage of the massive subsidies to driving that would otherwise leave senior citizens unable to drive on the outside looking in.

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            by BruceMcF on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:58:49 PM PDT

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        •  But that is getting off on a tangent ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... the original discussion was regarding senior citizens getting to the point that they shouldn't drive.

          A small minority can get around with chauffeurs, the rest are better off with other means. I often commuted to work from Newcastle, NSW to Ourimbah in the Central Coast of NSW after the peak commute hour, which allowed for the 40% discount off-peak return fare, and saw the Australian retirees using the (even more steeply discounted) off-peak pensioner discounts for an excursion.

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          by BruceMcF on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:53:11 PM PDT

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