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  •  Cyclone is going along with (2+ / 0-)
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    leaks of internal polling that have Iowa tied. Mitt's ridiculous and very public (and pointless) posturing against the Wind Tax credit, which is a huge new industry in Iowa, could end up making the difference in this election.

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    by ArkDem14 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:09:14 AM PDT

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    •  One "insider" report (6+ / 0-)

      said the Romney camp was looking at the IA early numbers and considering giving up on the state. If it was really tied the early voting should look more like 2004 than 2008.

      •  That's a BFD right there (2+ / 0-)
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        Romney's campaign is considering giving up on Iowa? THAT, my friends, is a big fucking deal right there!

        Apologies for the foul language, by the way.

        "Rahm Emaunel is the leader of the Scott Walker Wing of the Democratic Party!" -Me

        by DownstateDemocrat on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:18:06 AM PDT

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      •  That report is silly (2+ / 0-)
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        ArkDem14, bjssp

        How exactly does romney win if he gives up in state that is this close and this cheap to work in?  I'll throw this one in with eports from earlier this month about romney giving up in Ohio.

        Quite simply Romney isn't giving up in any state that's even remotely competitive because he needs to win nearly all of them to win.

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:24:11 AM PDT

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      •  Please link or at least cite... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...the source.

        I'm interested in this, I haven't seen any such thing.

        I'm not challenging you, I'm sincerely intrigued and want to see this.

        44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:48:40 AM PDT

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        •  It was posted in one of these threads (0+ / 0-)

          and the source was someone named McDonald (or MacDonald) from George Mason University. Beyond that I would have to go looking, which I may do if time permits.

          •  That's Michael McDonald, and I doubt... (3+ / 0-)
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            ...he would be connected to any knowledge of the Romney campaign's thinking.

            He did a write-up I myself linked about early voting so far, and he might have thrown in naked speculation about whether Romney should continue in Iowa, I don't remember, but it wasn't any insider source.

            McDonald does great and valuable work on elections data, but he's an academic, he has no inside sources on anything.

            44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

            by DCCyclone on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 09:58:53 AM PDT

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      •  Well, we have no #'s on in-person voting (0+ / 0-)

        Iowa has very liberal early voting rules. A small group of voters can petition to get an early voting site set up anywhere. Lots of the mega-churches did this in 2010 and are doing so again this year, which is a plausible explanation for the vote-by-mail gap. So I'd like a more complete set of data before celebrating much.

        (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

        by TrueBlueDem on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 09:26:18 AM PDT

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    •  No, I'm not going with any such thing (5+ / 0-)

      I don't have any internal polling leaks that Iowa is tied.

      I'm challenging the notion that the state could be "put away" before election day.

      I don't question that Obama is ahead in Iowa and would win the state today.  I don't question that the Iowa Poll and Marist Poll reliably establish that point.

      And I don't question that if he wins by 1-2 points, early voting strategy will have decided the outcome.

      I just question the notion that we have any comfort in the state.

      44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 08:51:16 AM PDT

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