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  •  Harding was just corrupt (0+ / 0-)

    But you can part of that was that he was just a figure head.

    What was so bad about Andrew Johnson?

    "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

    by ArkDem14 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:36:50 PM PDT

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    •  Trying to stymie Reconstruction (1+ / 0-)
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      and his evident opposition to racial civil rights, as well as unnecessarily fighting with Congress instead of trying to work to find solutions.

      I think Congress went way too far by impeaching him for what were essentially political/ideological differences, and it would have set a very bad precinct if he were removed, but that still doesn't mean Johnson was on the right side of the issues.

      37, MD-8 (MD-6 after 2012) resident, NOVA raised, Euro/Anglophile Democrat

      by Mike in MD on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:50:15 PM PDT

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      •  ^^very bad precedent. (0+ / 0-)

        37, MD-8 (MD-6 after 2012) resident, NOVA raised, Euro/Anglophile Democrat

        by Mike in MD on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:50:41 PM PDT

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      •  I really don't think Johnson (0+ / 0-)

        did things much differently than Lincoln would have. The Radical Republicans who dominated Congress had a thing against Johnson from the beginning because he was a Southerner and a believer in reconciliation. I mean I'm not defending nor do I think he was a good guy or a good President, but he probably was in the mainstream for his time period.

        "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

        by ArkDem14 on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 12:59:14 PM PDT

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        •  Lincoln Would Have Become A Radical Republican (0+ / 0-)

          and would have been pro universal suffrage and pro civil rights.

          Reread Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address, as well as his letters to Douglas. As the Civil War went on and as he developed friendships with blacks (such as Frederick Douglas) his views on race and the sins of slavery changed. He became much more "radical" than when he first entered office.

          There is no way that he would be as much of a moderate as Johnson was.

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