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  •  Truthfully, I can't argue with that... (5+ / 0-)

    of course, I don't WANT to argue because I agree with you, but my distinction was more between educated people and the people who are clearly un-ill-under-not-educated with a very small world view (frame of reference), like the lady who called Obama a communist the other day but couldn't define what a communist was (instead telling the reporter to go "study it out").  But still, I guess that distinction becomes moot when both groups of people vote against themselves, so you're point is well made.

    •  I'd walk it back a little (5+ / 0-)

      for the ignorant or ill-informed ... they do they not have a responsibility to themselves, family, neighbors to go get themselves informed too?

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Tue Oct 16, 2012 at 02:17:24 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, they do, which is why ... (6+ / 0-)

        despite being ill-under-not-uneducated, we can still group them in with people like my friend M (who is the rocket scientist with NASA) who thinks she's informed, but really has made no attempt to be informed with actual facts.  Because when you think about it, what's the difference between the two, other than education? There isn't any, because both refuse to deal with facts and look at the world in any other way than in their skewed meme-driven factless way.  They vote ideology, not factually.  Ergo, they vote irresponsibly because both groups (educated, ignorant) choose to remain in a bubble of their own creation ...

    •  My sister wes a biology major. (10+ / 0-)

      Now that she is a Republican, she no longer believes in the big bang theory or evolution. She does believe all the birther nonsense and that Obama is a communist. She is so pro-life she threw her seventeen year old's birth control pills away, when she found them. She is educated but something disconnected in her brain when she "got saved" and became a republican. Go figure!

      •  Ahhh..don't think it was God who changed her (9+ / 0-)

        I think it was the fan club.  I am a person of faith and I am liberal.  I believe in creation but don't discount the age of earth and the universe but I do not believe as many do about the big bang...I just don't have that much faith.  
        It is possible to believe and have faith in a higher power and still believe in science.  You just have to not be so literal.

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        by Vetwife on Tue Oct 16, 2012 at 03:26:30 PM PDT

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      •  Biology and chemistry here...does not compute. (1+ / 0-)
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        Please, please, please, will Gates or somebody do a clinical study on the brains of all of us? How does a scientists' or technicians brain get rewired like that?

        Is there a need to have a group where you don't need to think? To think/worry about the big picture?

        Where you give it to the God, or to the head of the Republican party, then forget about all the important stuff?

        Forget about everybody but your insular group?

        Too early to make my brain hurt.

        My personal computer is limited, can't post without tagging on. Community computer better. Pardon tagging to comments, spelling, please.

        by CuriousBoston on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 05:12:38 AM PDT

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