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  •  Huh? (4+ / 0-)
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    prodigal, brn2bwild, Little Lulu, Delilah

    The economy is doing better than it has in 4 years and it will continue to improve. I live in the Pac NW and things are picking up rapidly here.

    •  Um. I know it's better. 8% unemployment (0+ / 0-)

      Is not a good economy . . . I'm not saying its Obama's fault, I'm not saying it couldn't be worse. . .  I'm just saying it doesn't favor Obama.   At best, it's not a serious handicap.

      I can’t decide who’s cuter – the dead guy with the arrows in his chest, or the guy in the ditch with the seeping wound. -- Game of Thrones (Heard on Set)

      by prodigal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 at 01:18:11 PM PDT

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      •  The unemployment rate is NOT 8% (1+ / 0-)
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        According to BLS, it was 7.8% in September. According to Gallup, it's 7.3% now.

        •  Okay. 7%. That's a fucking glorious rate. (1+ / 0-)
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          The best ever.  I'm sorry, I must be expressing myself poorly or maybe feelings are just too charged.

          I'm just trying to say that it's not boom times for people and thinking that the economy is working in Obama's favor seems unrealistic.  

          But apparently I've Offended.  Sorry.

          I can’t decide who’s cuter – the dead guy with the arrows in his chest, or the guy in the ditch with the seeping wound. -- Game of Thrones (Heard on Set)

          by prodigal on Tue Oct 16, 2012 at 01:27:03 PM PDT

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          •  This is another thing too... (3+ / 0-)
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            And I've made almost all my comments about this since joining the site a few weeks ago, because I don't think it's mentioned enough.

            Maybe, as a minority and as someone that does minority studies, my perspective is a little skewed. But:

            The economy is slowly getting better, if the president is white.

            If the president is black, he hasn't done enough. He hasn't "fixed" things.

            It's a horrible thing to say but it's the sad truth of the matter. Our president is not beyond blame. He fumbled the debate, he had a lackluster convention speech. But as my Civil Rights professor--who was involved in the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's--is fond of saying:

            If you're black and he's white, and he's wearing a tshirt, you have to be wearing a suit. If he has a BA, you better have your PhD. The playing field is not level. Many people held their noses and voted for the President in the first term because they were directly affected by the downturn of the economy, but the mere fact that they elected him but the president in a difficult to win position:

            If the economy gets better, then we can elect someone white again!
            If the economy doesn't get better, we put a white man in the white house who can fix it!

            Racism sucks.

          •  The days of 4% or 5% unemployment are gone (0+ / 0-)

            probably forever. If we ever 6% I'd be thunderstruck.

      •  What matters is the rate of change (0+ / 0-)

        of unemployment more than the current level. Even in a shitty economy, if it's getting better, the historical record favors the incumbent party.

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        by Code Monkey on Tue Oct 16, 2012 at 02:23:23 PM PDT

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    •  unemployment is quite high (1+ / 0-)
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      and the drumbeat message from the Republicans is that the country is in the toilet.

      that's one thing I would like to see Obama get angry about tonight: Romney's constant denigrating of the country.

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