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  •  Just some thoughts. (20+ / 0-)

    The nuclear family is a modern invention. As social innovation, it sucks the Big Badoody.

    Naturally, it was a gift to the American public from wealth, conservativism and the corporations after the close of WW II. The concept that the nuclear family is the ideal has done a great deal of damage to America and American children.

    The best way to raise children is in an extended family: grandparents, parents, children, aunts, uncles and cousins all living together cooperatively.

    IMO the idea that we should live in nuclear families is a chief cause of our epidemic of child abuse. You do not know America is suffering from child abuse of epic proportions?

    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 08:23:40 AM PDT

    •  Having two parents instead of one (3+ / 0-)

      In theory gives children access to a larger extended family.

      I wonder if a trend towards fewer children, leading to smaller extended families, is harmful to our culture.

      •  Not Exactly... (3+ / 0-)
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        The postwar trend to children moving far away from their parents' families, usually to seek employment, has far more influence on the relative isolation of a given family unit from its extended web of relatives.

        In a world less alienated by paranoid fear of The Other combined with crippling slavery to time-sucking jobs, one could rely on friends and neighbors to act as surrogate extended families. Conservatives worked to poison community unity, and we don't see that reliance on close friends that always have one's back.

        Which is something you often see in the LGBTQE community (or communities, since there is regrettable fragmentation and separation in our various subcultures). I dare say that the best-adjusted of us "sexual identity outlaw" folks forge strong and far-reaching networks of friends that act as surrogate family. Emotional support is sometimes all we have to get through the day. And often, if you choose your besties well, that will be enough.

        -8.75,-8.00. 1,138 rights and responsibilities of civil marriage are denied married same-sex couples, and I demand that we get them. RIGHT. NOW.

        by CajunBoyLgb on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:45:06 AM PDT

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      •  two ways to raise birth rates (1+ / 0-)
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        I wonder if a trend towards fewer children, leading to smaller extended families, is harmful to our culture.
        One is the pre-industrial model: labor-intensive agricultural economy, sky-high infant mortality, and no other means of old age support.  However, there's some evidence that the other method occurs at the opposite extreme: with generous support that socializes the heavy fixed costs of raising children.  In a situation like that, people who would otherwise have few or no children and then only late in life, will instead have more of them (more as in 3 versus 2.1 in the US and as little as 1.5 in Europe) and have them earlier.

        Logically, if you want people to have more babies, then you should support things like socialized medicine, free education (for young college-age parents as well as their children eventually), daycare (for working parents), paid maternity leave (for both parents), more affordable and/or subsidized housing, mass transit, etc.  Call it the humane way of making children as cheap and easy as they are in sub-Saharan Africa.

        To those who say the New Deal didn't work: WWII was also government spending

        by Visceral on Wed Oct 17, 2012 at 09:58:33 AM PDT

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    •  In complete agreement! (1+ / 0-)
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    •  A lot older than that (1+ / 0-)
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      get the red out

      Sure, the US extended family had problems after WWII.

      But the great western migration split up families during the 18th century quite effectively. So did the horrible death rates.

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