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  •  My argument is a constitutional argument (0+ / 0-)

    We ratified a Covenant, which states:

    “Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.”
    Even terrorists are human beings, who cannot be deprived of their life without a trial, which is also in the Covenant:
    The Covenant also guarantees those accused of a crime the right to be presumed innocent and to a fair trial by an impartial tribunal. Targeted killings abrogate these rights.
    You have failed to answer the Constitutional portion of the argument. But given your history here, it's not unexpected.

    We danced before on this same issue in another diary and you ran away from me (along with your pal, whom I will not mention here) when I raised the same points.

    So I am hoping for a response  this time.

    •  That doesn't override the laws of war. (0+ / 0-)

      During armed combat, trials are not necessary; you need to read the treaty in the fuller context of international law.

      •  Why don't you cite it for me then (0+ / 0-)

        in its full context.

        •  You can google NIAC and drones (0+ / 0-)

          to get a sense of the relevant legal terrain.  

          •  the intl legal question is (0+ / 0-)

            whether the use of drone strikes in e.g. Pakistan is part of a lawful war. I don't think there is serious contest that the use of drone strikes in Afghanistan is illegal per se, b/c there isn't serious contest that overall the war in Afghanistan is a lawful war (that doesn't mean everything the US does is lawful, just that the war is not unlawful per se.)

            Also, even if US military actions in Pakistan is not unlawful per se, there are still questions about the drone strikes, for example targeting rescuers, which is unlawful whether or not it takes place in the context of a lawful war.

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