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  •  But shouldn't the company who put the tanks in (1+ / 0-)
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    Be liable for the shit that

    The entire fossil-fuel economy is full of these kinds of dangers. Deepwater Horizon is a big event, but hundreds or thousands of these gas-station issues also add to the entire corruption of the industry.

    Exxon (now XOM) gets $Billions in taxpayer subsidies to basically fund this cover-up work all over the country.

    They also use those $Billions to fight for more $Billions in tax giveaways, to corrupt the regulatory agencies and fight any alternatives.

    Sure, what Exxon is doing probably makes sense - but only in a twisted world where we can't or won't clean up after ourselves... a world where we'll end up like the movie Wall-E and Earth is a toxic dumpster.

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    by sacrelicious on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 12:14:03 PM PDT

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    •  Depends (3+ / 0-)

      do they even still exist? That's a problem a lot of the time - company goes out of business, nobody wants the property because of the costs involved.

      that's how sites get on the superfund lists. The company that owned them is long gone, nobody wants anything to do with them, but you can't just let them sit there and leach into everything else.

      •  This is what (0+ / 0-)

        In financial circles you can't do business in financial transactions unless you put up a huge (like $millions of dollars) bond so the state can forfeit it if you happen to, say, lose everyone's money.

        There are insurance companies that cover your bond for a yearly fee.

        Why don't we have the same thing for gas stations and the like?  These places are superfund sites waiting to happen - if the company just happens to "go bankrupt" - the public is left on the hook.

        This is also probably why gas stations are not usually owned by the oil company - perhaps because by running it as a franchise operation, they have little to zero liability for this kind of mess?

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        by sacrelicious on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 11:13:11 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think Exxon owns any gas stations (2+ / 0-)

      the stations are usually owned by local small business folks, right?

      Kiss my ass. This is a Holy Site...

      by jam on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 01:10:53 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for pointing that out. (2+ / 0-)
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        Most people have no clue how that works.  I get so irritated when people try to start some kind of boycott, like"gas prices are too high so don't buy gas on Tuesday and bring Exxon to its knees!"  Doesn't work that way.  The major oil companies may have some company-owned stations (I'm too lazy to research which ones & how many), but the majority of gas stations are jobbers who pay a branding fee to the oil company.  So the local Exxon station is probably owned by Billy Bob Jones, or maybe Anish Patel, who has half a dozen stations in town.

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