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  •  It was terrifying to the 4 dead Americans. (1+ / 0-)
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    What is this "declared a terrorist attack" crap?  Groucho Marx.  "Say the magic word", win a".... presidency.    

    Alot of people hate America. Some have RPGs, some have molotov cocktails.  Some are Muslims,  some have rental trucks full of fertilizer and deisel.  Some succeed in their efforts, some get shot in the face.

    Excitable Romney thinks lying and spinning is just business.  Issa has spilled names of Libyans cooperating with US.  This is real, not a Fox News sweeps week pilot.  People get killed.  3000 soldiers in Iraq.    

    By the way, where was the "American people's right to know" when the GOP and Fox stampeded them into Iraq?  

    Romney lived by the magic word, died by the magic word.

    Barack Hussein Obama- Don't Mock the Constitution.

    by odenthal on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 06:42:23 PM PDT

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    •  im not arguing for any of that (0+ / 0-)

      no. But I generally try to rationally understand what people say. Even if I dont agree.

      Romeny's response on the day of the attack was appalling. But he is correct when he says that the Obama administration was not 100% sure what happened for about 2 weeks. Or at least that was when they told the american people with certainty.

      I also dont think its insane for them to take two weeks to figure it out. Its a mess over there, reliable information must be very hard to come by and even if they knew if they felt that not telling us all right away was the right move then I trust them with it. But at the same time, I dont mean to pretend that Obama told the American public that this was a planned attack right away. He didnt. We didnt know if it was a response to the video or a planned atack until about two weeks later.

      The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

      by gbaked on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 07:26:38 PM PDT

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      •  Before their blood stains had dried. (0+ / 0-)

        Romney got attention from American deaths by waving a bloody shirt.

        He's not in the loop, and neither are we. This isn't a made-for-TV drama where you are 100% sure at the top of the hour.  Why do you simplify into video induced, or a planned attack?   ~20 cities were erupting, these guys showed up with their RPGs.   You'll never know what happened 100%.

        You do know 100%:

        Obama delivered Libya from a imminent Kadafi bloodbath without a single American death.  The GOP were all over the map.  

        Obama shot bin Laudin in the face, again without american losses.

        The GOP continues to root against America.

        Whether it's foot dragging the economy, or fanning the 911 mosque, sharia law hysteria, this incendiary video, the right wing has been undermining the country.  

        Romney should not be given an inch, especially when it comes to telling the truth.

        Barack Hussein Obama- Don't Mock the Constitution.

        by odenthal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 10:42:42 AM PDT

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        •  fair enough (0+ / 0-)

          which is why i said "Or at least that was when they told the american people with certainty."

          I have absolutely no issue with how Obama handled this tragedy.

          It just feels like there are better arguments to be made and focused on.

          The threat to our way of life comes from corporations, and the solution is to shrink corporations while freeing government from corporate control.

          by gbaked on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 02:55:00 PM PDT

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