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  •  Far be it from me (5+ / 0-)

    to take up for the Mitt, but I don't count this as a lie. I think he simply didn't know what Obama said in the rose garden.

    Not even Mittens is dumb enough to lie so boldly right in front of the President and the country, about something that is available on video for all to see, and knowing the President would call him out on it the minute the words left his mouth--and knowing he would look like an utter fool.

    He looked disbelieving, then horrified, then really angry, no doubt at the person or persons who didn't tell him what the President had said.

    It was kinda neat being able to watch the emotions play across his face.

    And there sat the President, looking exactly the way a cat looks after polishing off a bowl of cream.

    Facts matter. Joe Biden

    by kpardue on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 11:50:00 AM PDT

    •  What about the first debate? (2+ / 0-)
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      Romney lied about positions Romney had taken as recently as a week before the debate. Claimed he'd never supported tax cuts for the wealthy, for example. Hardly a breath left his mouth that didn't carry a lie obvious to anyone who'd ever paid attention to anything he'd said on the same subjects before. Didn't hurt him at all. To the press, it just made him a "winner," someone ready to "do what it takes."

      •  I am not (1+ / 0-)
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        claiming he doesn't lie. I simply think that in that instance he was not lying.

        In most of his lies the truth would take more then a minute or two to disprove. Of course, we know he's lying, and certainly the President knows he's lying, but a lot of people are ill informed. And time restraints are such that some lies are difficult to disprove in a minute or two, and Ms. Crowley was always calling time, particularly on rebuttal.

        This was a different situation. The facts were readily available and the President knew that. So, he hung Romney out to dry.

        It was ignorance of the facts and his ignorance was a huge embarrassment for him. Why would a person deliberately set himself up for that?

        Facts matter. Joe Biden

        by kpardue on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 12:57:21 PM PDT

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        •  because he's delusional (1+ / 0-)
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          he is counseled by delusional advisers who believe their own propaganda. The whole team is divorced from reality. They are all conditioned to groupthink. So they tell him "never mind what you hear, Obama never said that (based on their own parsing of the rose garden speech)". So he goes out fully "briefed" and is stunned to find that there is contrary evidence out there that a lot of other people treat as "truth" Stunned. That was the look. "how can this be happening to me? ME!' WMR???

          the cult has it's own secret handshakes, and when you listen to Limbaugh enough, or to John Bolton, or other sycophants, you lose track of what the rest of the world calls "reality". So the Times and the Wash. Post (and the Denver Post, today!!!) says (in general) "stuff doesn't add many assertions not backed by any facts, too much pie in the sky, too many cognitive leaps....maybe the MSM is getting scared that this could really be a catastrophe if Mitts gets elected.... and the burnout last week is just the start. Wait until after the next debate....

          Without geometry, life is pointless. And blues harmonica players suck.

          by blindcynic on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 10:28:25 PM PDT

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