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  •  my fear is Bowles/Simpson (3+ / 0-)
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    JKTownsend, WakeUpNeo, motherlu

    Too many democrats seem to want to use it as a starting point as if they can't remember they gave up the house to get it and the GOPers rejected it anyway. The good thing is Chuck Shumer and a few good liberals have recently come out against the B/S drastic cuts to social programs.

    As for getting outta town I'd rather Obama stay in town to keep democrats from selling the farm while he's gone.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Sat Oct 20, 2012 at 08:57:37 PM PDT

    •  I agree that the BS plan (1+ / 0-)
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      had some D's eager to start negotiating using the plan as the starting point.  The problem is that D's tend to take the starting point to mean they can only move to the right. Maybe us D's would be better off thinking of it for what it really was, the midpoint.  We can't seem to grasp that there are two sides to the seesaw. The problem is that for the R's this was never an issue.  They always looked at it as the starting point.  Paul Ryan, a member of the commission, voted against ratification of the agreement.  According to Bloomberg Businessweek;

      The 18-member panel needed 14 votes to send a 10-year plan to trim the debt to Congress for a vote. As his party’s then- ranking member on the House Budget Committee, Ryan led a bloc of three House Republicans who denied the additional votes needed.
      It seems to me that the BS plan was never going to an agreement to move toward a compromise, at least not on the part of the R House (the Senate R's all voted in favor of it).

      I guess that when I say Obama needs to "get out of DC" I am speaking more metaphorically than anything.  What I mean is that he needs to resist that nagging urge he has to compromise toward the right.

      Thanks for your response.

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