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  •  Probably a complete waste of my time, but... (5+ / 0-)

    You take pains to highlight this fact:

    Mitt Romney is a Mormon.
    You tie "Mormon Extremism" to the alleged abuses. This is not just offensive -- though it is indeed that -- it makes no sense.

    Your argument requires that there be some version of the Mormon religion that recommends or condones child molestation, or that almost does so but these places just carried it too far. That's nonsense. (I assume you're not relying on the FLDS sect for your argument, but if you are, you need so say so.)

    Consider an analogous potential smear of a Christian politician: one might argue that at least some murders of abortion providers can be attributed to Christian Extremism because non-extreme Christianity has an ethic of protecting innocent life -- the murderers take this principle to the extreme (too understate the matter greatly), but there is some sense in which they believe they are relying on their religion's teachings. That is not true of either pedophile priests or abusive Utah guards who happen to be Mormon. There's just no connection between their religions and their objectionable/criminal actions.

    For example, there's no version of Catholicism that says "a little bit of child molestation is ok, but don't take it too far." That's not to defend the failure to prevent, remediate, or atone for the problems, but nobody (outside of this site) thinks Catholicism provides some theological support for child molestation. It doesn't, and neither does Mormonism, to my more limited knowledge. (Things might be a little more complicated if you were only talking about physical abuse -- some Christian preachers do tout corporal punishment -- but your smear would not have anywhere near your desired potency.)

    All camps of the type described are susceptible to the same kinds of problems, just as all jails and prisons are susceptible to abuses of authority. All groups like the Boy Scouts are susceptible to molestation problems, though not necessarily to non-sexual physical abuse. What matters is how hard these institutions work to prevent those problems and how effective they are at remediating them. It's perfectly fine to go after them as evil Bain investments, but there is no need or basis for a religious connection.

    Your diary is an embarrassment, but could have been interesting without the religious smears. But then it would basically have been the HuffPo piece, which managed to make all the relevant points without wallowing in the muck.

    •  what's embarrassing is that this happened (1+ / 0-)
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      Cordyc

      Can we get back to that? What do you think about the fact that Mitt Romney keeps creepy company?

      (both personal and … fiduciary, as it were)

      All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

      by subtropolis on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 11:25:46 PM PDT

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