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  •  Gaaak! (3+ / 0-)

    Yes, of course.
    Rick!
    Edited!

    Sorry all.

    Shalom.

    "God has given wine to gladden the hearts of people." Psalm 104:15

    by WineRev on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 09:37:25 AM PDT

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    •  Also, 1st paragraph below the fold (2+ / 0-)
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      NonnyO, Larsstephens

      Oberstar's name is misspelled.

      Nolan was one of the folks who is responsible for the creation of the BWCA, and if he wins he supposedly gets to carry in his seniority from his previous time served.

      I liked Oberstar, but a lot of people felt he just had been around too long which I guess is a viable complaint, and he also was a bit... well not blue dog per se, but perhaps a blue puppy in ways. I think it was the abortion issue we didn't see eye to eye on.

      Anyway, hope the poll is accurate and that it stays that way Cravaack is just an outright ass.

      •  Sheesh! (1+ / 0-)
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        Larsstephens

        Fixed Oberstar's name.

        Thanx.

        Shalom.

        "God has given wine to gladden the hearts of people." Psalm 104:15

        by WineRev on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 10:21:07 AM PDT

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      •  The other thing on Oberstar (2+ / 0-)
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        was despite representing a fairly rural district (with only Duluth as a real metropolitan area) he rose by seniority to be chair of the House Transportation Committee.

        He did a lot of good for Amtrak, mass transit, bike trails, airports, roads, etc., although at times he had to fend off the crazies and lost a round now and again.

        He had a 5 year transportation bill in the wings in 2010 (sort of like a 5 year farm bill) but couldn't get Obama/Pelosi to bring to the floor and push it through. After he lost, and the GOP took over the House, lots of projects that have helped or would have helped wean us toward an enhanced and greener transport system have been whacked by Cantor & crew.

        On that front, not just a loss to MN, but a loss to the nation.

        Shalom.

        "God has given wine to gladden the hearts of people." Psalm 104:15

        by WineRev on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 10:25:48 AM PDT

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      •  I learned to dislike Oberstar (0+ / 0-)

        In '06 he co-signed Conyers' draft of articles of impeachment before election day.

        By Feb '07 when I emailed his office asking when they were going to move on impeaching Dumbya, the response (besides being a long email full of b.s.) said they were not going to proceed for fear of "Republican backlash."

        By '10, it was Voter Backlash he had to contend with and out he went.

        Oberstar lost my confidence when he - and Conyers - followed "Impeachment-is-off-the-table" Pelosi over the edge of politicians not to be trusted.  [I will never, ever forgive Pelosi her cowardice.  Never!]

        Conyers later had a dismal meeting with war vets who pushed for impeachment and ending the unconstitutional wars, and just sat there like a bump on a log with his tail 'twixt his legs without giving any good reasons not to proceed with impeachment.  If I hadn't been so mad at him for being a bloody coward and not following through with what he said he would do if elected, I could have felt sorry for him, but he brought it upon himself.

        That's why no one should ever take a politician's word for anything if s/he says "If elected I will...."  Signing on to Conyers' impeachment bill was 95% of the reason I voted for Oberstar in '06.  Post-election day and the betrayal of the "I will..." promise to impeach the lying war criminals and I still have not forgiven Oberstar for acting like an ass.  In '08 I left the Rep ovals blank - my version of being labeled "present but not voting" as some are listed when they do a roll call vote; otherwise, as usual, I voted a straight Dem ticket.  In '10 the poll numbers were close, so I once again voted for the lesser of two evils (Oberstar), but I wasn't happy because he had not kept his word in '06.

        The politicians need to learn that if they say they'll do something that they MUST do it BEFORE election day or face being voted out of office.  Politicians:  Don't make promises you refuse to keep once back in office.  Politicians only get one term in office to show us what kind of a rep or senator they'll be.  They'd best make a good impression or face being voted out of office in the next election cycle.

        Over 30 years in office is too long.  Politicians get too comfortable and become unduly unpleasant when they finally are voted out of office, if their original plan was to live long and die while still in office.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 06:20:16 PM PDT

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