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  •  Don't you remember? When being Gay was (1+ / 0-)
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    Scientifically proven to be a mental illness? When being brown was Scientifically proven to be less intelligent? When being a woman was Scientifically proven to be hysterical?

    Good Gods!
    I have no intention of going back to that either!

    Science is great, but it doesn't have all the answers. And sometimes, those answers are skewed for various agendas. It sucks but there it is.

    Part of the push back on this isn't about evolution or religion, it's simply not allowing Science to replace Religious Totalitarian Fantasies.

    Science is Dynamic and it changes because the results and the processes are refined over time. So questioning Science is --dare I say it? Sacred. Otherwise you loose that process of refinement and simply replace one bad god with another.

    •  You're right. We're always learning more. (3+ / 0-)
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      If done honestly, science has a built-in mechanism that allows (nay demands) that scientific understanding be modified, updated, revised, or even rewritten when new (and confirmed) discoveries require that. Look at the recent discovery of the accelerating expansion of the universe which no one expected until observational astronomers made that discovery (with independent confirmation). We're still trying to get our heads around that one, but we will get there eventually. Science doesn't get there overnight--some things take more time than others.

      That what's so much fun about science--looking for that new undiscovered nugget of scientific gold and seeing where it may lead. But science is simply the best tool we have to discover how the universe and nature actually work. It should be used as a very important tool when the situation demands (and then used ruthlessly), but science is amoral and should never be placed all by itself as the apotheosis of society. It can never replace human thought, human love, and human caring which should be the basis of a humane society. Science itself is neither good nor bad. It's the people and the institutions established among men that use science that will determine that.

      These are troubling times. Corporations are treated like people. People are treated like things. ... If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now. — Rev. Dr. William Barber, II to the NAACP, July 11, 2012

      by dewtx on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 07:34:10 AM PDT

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      •  I believe part of what we are seeing right now is (2+ / 0-)
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        turf war between corporatists and scientists over the "soul"of Science and it's place in society.

        The attack on Science by religion is simply opportunism, very successful acts of opportunism.

        •  well said, and about that we agree. (2+ / 0-)
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          "... what we are seeing right now is a turf war between corporatists and scientists over the soul of science and its place in society."

          Exactly.  

          "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

          by G2geek on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 03:26:38 PM PDT

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          •  Disagreement doesn't have to be bad. (2+ / 0-)
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            It can just mean that individuals pursue different paths to alleviating certain problems.

            Otherwise how much better would 2 heads be--than just one head, or 3 or 100, if they all insisted on pursuing all knowledge exactly the same way?

      •  well said: you speak for me with that one. (1+ / 0-)
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        dewtx

        We still need sources of ethical and moral guidance as to how science should be conducted and how it should be applied.  

        "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

        by G2geek on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 03:23:46 PM PDT

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