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  •  Never doubted his complete devotion to what (6+ / 0-)

    the GOP has become.  He is  dishonorable and should not be given a national presence on a progressive show, imho.

    •  He earned cred with progressives when he (2+ / 0-)
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      disavowed the Palin pick. Since then, not so much. Time for him to go, but MSNBC, like the others, wants to have token opponents for "balance."

      •  Need to Know Opposition Mindset (6+ / 0-)

        I respectfully disagree.  Steve Schmidt offers an interesting insight into the Republican mindset, which the progressive camp needs to know.  He argued his case forcefully but cogently with Ms. Maddow and tried to lay out his reasoning behind his opinion on the debate outcome.  One can disagree with him about that opinion, but we need to know the rationale he is using because he reflects the thinking from that side of the political spectrum  One can disagree with that philosophy but one needs to know it in order to move against it.

        "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

        by PrahaPartizan on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 06:40:02 AM PDT

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        •  Usually he does. (2+ / 0-)
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          schnecke21, RantNRaven

          He was odd last night - as though someone told him he had to quit the somewhat reasonable talk if he ever wants to get another GOP gig.

          "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

          by newfie on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 07:18:32 AM PDT

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          •  What was unreasonable about his assertion (1+ / 0-)
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            that the laid back approach was deliberate strategy?  I happen to think it was, and it prevented Romney from coming off as a scary, scary loose canon on foreign affairs.  Whether that helps or merely averted disaster, we may never know.

            •  Not that. (1+ / 0-)
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              Eyesbright

              But his touting that as a major plus for Romney was a bit odd.  I had expected to hear him say that the approach could have been or was strategy  AND Romney did not appear to be the same loose cannon as he does whenever he speaks on foreign policy.  But I my impression of Schmidt is that he usually stays more neutral on his comments - which is to his credit.  That was what I found a bit odd that he would say it was strategy and was successful.  I think any possible gains form not appearing scary were likely mitigated (and I think actually overwhelmed) by the sense that he had no policy accept to agree with the President.

              In short, saying that the President is right once or twice is okay.  Saying the President is right again and again and again puts across the message that the President is right.

              "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

              by newfie on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 08:43:09 AM PDT

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            •  What was unreasonable about it was that (0+ / 0-)

              Schmidt was endorsing Romney representing himself as someone he isn't--Romney IS "a scary, scary loose canon [sic: should be "cannon"] on foreign affairs" and tried to present himself as exactly what he is NOT.

              Do not confuse "reasonable" with "rational"; it was perfectly rational of him not to present himself as the fanatical pro-war asshole he is, but that is not saying it was reasonable. How can it be reasonable to misrepresent oneself completely?

              "There's no ideology [t]here [on the right]. It's just about being a dick." Bill Maher, June 22, 2012.

              by caseynm on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 01:01:47 PM PDT

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      •  Disavowing Palin gives credibility? (3+ / 0-)
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        TheDuckManCometh, drmah, Eyesbright

        Pretty low bar there.

        "Here's another nice mess you've gotten me into." - Oliver Hardy

        by native on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 08:08:07 AM PDT

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    •  Do we want an echo chamber or reasonable, (0+ / 0-)

      diverse interpretations?  I'll take the latter, thank you.

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