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  •  Well, I think I've finally got it. The cons are (22+ / 0-)

    firmly convinced that the role of government is to punish. Since that's an unpalatable position on which to get elected, they promise that, of course, they'll punish someone else -- the disobedient. So, if the electorate is obedient and votes right, then they'll be safe.
    The problem is that in 2008, the electorate didn't vote right. So, the electorate had to be punished. The economic collapse that was threatened had to be realized.
    But, the problem now is that having punished their base, the base has become suspicious that the promise to punish someone else was a lie all along. Never mind that the someone else being women is a real turn off to an electorate that's made up of 51% of them. 47% is no better, even if it's made up of men and women.

    "We fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them here at home" was prudently vague about who "them" was. Willard was clear about the 47%.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 02:36:24 AM PDT

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    •  ONe of the roles of government is to punish you (7+ / 0-)

      if you happen to be a criminal.  Of course, since the conservatives are folks who are, or would like to, engage in criminal activity, they hate government, much the way garden variety crooks do.  No, they'd much rather be free to pollute, cheat, steal, lie, defraud, and discriminate.

      Never believe your own press, never drink your own KoolAid

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 06:07:22 AM PDT

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      •  sometimes even if your not a criminal (4+ / 0-)

        but happen to have been born a woman, gay, of color, or into modest means.

        We have the elite, smart people on our side.

        by fearisthemindkiller on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 06:40:30 AM PDT

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      •  Well, actually, what we do is we restrain (3+ / 0-)
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        individuals from repeating miscreant behavior, if the system works as designed.  Unfortunately, and it is a matter of fortune, individuals endowed with the gift of gab routinely manage to talk themselves out of jams by making an act of contrition and promising not to do it again. Then they do. Largely because, I would argue, most of these verbally adept crooks really have no talents to share with anyone. Never mind producing anything anyone would willingly buy. That's why there's this constant impetus to accumulate scarce resources, create a monopoly and then force others to buy what they need just to survive.
        What the cons want restored are the halcyon days of Congress doling out property rights and exclusive use of resources. That was the big business until human rights and environmental rights and animal rights came along.
        "The Tragedy of the Commons," which was written later than I thought, tried to argue that environmental degradation is the result of common ownership and individual ownership would be more certain to insure the preservation of natural resources because of the individual's interest in ?????????
        The author forgot about the individual interest in power and the high that comes with depriving one's own kind of access to sustenance without demonstrating obedience and supplication. As evidence of the consequence of that impulse to lord it over their own kind and make life as miserable as possible, we have thousands of acres of abandoned commercial, industrial and agricultural wastelands.

        We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Tue Oct 23, 2012 at 08:01:27 AM PDT

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