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  •  What if Dem senators went on strike? (none)
    What if they just refused to enter Congress to vote? After or while the rules were in the process of being broken, of course. What if they just left and refused to go back?
    •  Well... (none)
      Under the Constitution, a quorum is a majority of Senators.  Repubs hold a majority in the Senate.  Thus, legislation would breeze through the Senate.

      However, this is probably what will be undertaken next by Frist.  Which makes compromise on this self-defeating.

      This is THE fight.  We, the People, must go to the mattresses on this one.  

      I am beginning to believe the People must organize against this.  A national strike would be a good move.  First, one week.  Then, back to work with an ultimatum: if Frist fails to correct this, and go on the record saying he was wrong and that he contravened the rules of the Senate, the strike will become continuous and rotate through industries/economic sectors.
       

      •  National Strike... (none)
        Wow, what an idea...We can build on the student's Frist filibuster and do a "People's Filibuster".
        •  Come on now (none)
          what we have here is a nation of couch potatoes.  The only striking we might get them to do is to forgo the ice cream afterwards.
          •  So let's start with this.... (none)
            A Strike, a Sickout or something like it IS in order.  We need the publicity and political pressure.  The Princeton filibuster showed that we can generate media coverage if we are artful.  If people do not think we can drum up nationwide support, I say we start with strikes or rolling sickouts in the STATES of wavering SENATORS.  For instance, how about Pennsylvania, a STATE which played such an important role in the drafting of our Constitution and the formation of our Republic?  Pennsylvania also happens to be a majority Dem STATE.  And, Arlen Specter seems to be on the fence.  If we started striking important industries in Pennsylvania, we might get somewhere with his patrons and the people of Pennsylvania.  

            *We might also consider this in Virginia, where there are two Republican Senators, but a fair amount of Dems.  

            *Florida would also be a good STATE, since Martinez is there and there is a good Dem population.  

            *New Mexico also might be a good STATE, again because there is a good Dem activist base, and Domenici is such an old-timer in the Senate.

            We need to show these Senators, in a politically (read: economically) impressive manner, that we mean business.

        •  Here's my latest thoughts.... (none)
          A Strike, a Sickout or something like it IS in order.  We need the publicity and political pressure.  The Princeton filibuster showed that we can generate media coverage if we are artful.  If people do not think we can drum up nationwide support, I say we start with strikes or rolling sickouts in the STATES of wavering SENATORS.  For instance, how about Pennsylvania, a STATE which played such an important role in the drafting of our Constitution and the formation of our Republic?  Pennsylvania also happens to be a majority Dem STATE.  And, Arlen Specter seems to be on the fence.  If we started striking important industries in Pennsylvania, we might get somewhere with his patrons and the people of Pennsylvania.  

          *We might also consider this in Virginia, where there are two Republican Senators, but a fair amount of Dems.  

          *Florida would also be a good STATE, since Martinez is there and there is a good Dem population.  

          *New Mexico also might be a good STATE, again because there is a good Dem activist base, and Domenici is such an old-timer in the Senate.

          We need to show these Senators, in a politically (read: economically) impressive manner, that we mean business.

          •  Threaten all companies that gave to their election (none)
            Make a list of all companies that gave to their election campaigns and boycott them.  Also, have workers from those companies use all their vacation and sick time next week or at the earliest they can...non hourly workers call in sick at only those companies...give workers day off if you have the control...

            There are many things you can ask for that will make them say, "hey buddy, we're against this nuclear option thing"...

            I'll tell you, locally we had a Wal Mart that wanted to open a 24 box store in a neighborhood and they had the legal ability to do it under current ordinances.  Well, the neighborhood associations all started challenging the permits for Walmart and show up to public hearings on EVERY WalMart action in town to make EVERYTHING difficult...and they backed down.  I thought we were screwed, but they backed down.  They were already doing the pad site leasing when it crumbled...it was freaking great...

            Have to be organized, have to be legal, and you have to cost them money.  There is a way, folks, just got to be creative.

    •  Quorum (none)
      Quorum is 51 senators, I believe, and they could be arrested and forced to the floor even if they could somehow get 50 senators to be absent. Though it would be a great symbolic gesture.

      The appearance of law must be upheld, especially when it's being broken

      by Boss Tweed on Wed May 18, 2005 at 12:19:15 AM PDT

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    •  since Frist is nuts (none)
      can't they have him arrested at the door?  This is F*c*ingUnbelieveable

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