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  •  In some states... (7+ / 0-)

    ...taking a picture of your ballot might be violating statute.

    Of course, this is one of those circumstances when the risk of arrest  and prosecution would be a price I would willingly pay.

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 04:45:41 PM PDT

    •  Aren't cameras prohibited from polling places? (3+ / 0-)
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      It's a good suggestion, but not sure how feasible, given the election privacy laws.

      I can take a picture of my absentee ballot, though.

      •  Unless they make people surrender their phones (3+ / 0-)

        it's not really possible to enforce such a ban, and not justifiable to prohibit people from merely taking pictures of their own marked ballots.

        Voter suppression is treason.

        by Troubadour on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 06:00:05 PM PDT

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        •  although, if we start letting people take... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...pictures of marked ballots, that becomes a means by which corrupt employers can demand we vote the way they tell us to, and provide proof, in order to keep our jobs.

          Now of course any employer who tried that would probably be looking at serious civil lawsuits and criminal prosecution.  But that won't stop them.

          The best we can do about photographing ballots is to do it as an act of civil disobedience in states where it is not allowed, and if challenged on it, plead competing harms.  

          "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

          by G2geek on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 10:42:27 PM PDT

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    •  Even if there are such statutes (1+ / 0-)
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      Broke And Unemployed

      in any given voter's case, there's no possible justification for prohibiting people from photographing their own ballots, so I agree - do it and apologize later, if it ever comes up.

      Voter suppression is treason.

      by Troubadour on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 05:58:58 PM PDT

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      •  actually there is: to prevent people from... (1+ / 0-)
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        .... demanding that others vote a certain way: for example your employer, landlord, etc., demanding you vote their way or else, and provide them with proof.  

        The fact that they might go to prison for doing it won't stop them.  

        Aside from that I'm with you all the way.

        "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

        by G2geek on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 10:43:50 PM PDT

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        •  Ah, hadn't thought of that. (1+ / 0-)
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          Voter suppression is treason.

          by Troubadour on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 11:04:12 PM PDT

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          •  hey there's another diary you need to see: (1+ / 0-)
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            Troubadour

            Texas AG threatens to arrest election monitors:

            http://www.dailykos.com/...

            I'm going over there to post about your diary.

            Time for some cross-pollination.

            BTW, the nature of denial is to get all defensive about being called out for being in denial.  That's why all the outpouring of concerrrrrrn here from certain quarters.

            "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

            by G2geek on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 11:41:06 PM PDT

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