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  •  yes they do... they = GOP (7+ / 0-)

    You cite a couple of instances but they make very little difference when compared to the massive fraud the GOP is perpetrating across the nation. All one needs to do is pay attention to the many diaries on dkos to learn the truth.

    And that's not even counting the voter suppression and campaign shananigans they're doing.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 06:37:01 PM PDT

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    •  To "learn the truth"? (1+ / 0-)
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      "All one needs to do is pay attention to the many diaries on dkos to learn the truth."
      Wow. That's some scary shit right there. All one needs to do is read the amazingly over baked histrionics on a partisan website to "learn the truth?" If you read the same statement about Red State or Free Republic, I hope yo'd realize how insane that sounds.

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      by FischFry on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 08:14:04 PM PDT

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      •  wrong again Mr. fry, your opinion of dkos aside (1+ / 0-)
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        You can also read the thousands of reports from non-dkos sources if you're of a mind. They originate in every swing state and places like California. They've been reported by the MSM as well as credible sites like dkos. I was just giving you an easy reference since you came on as rather simple minded.

        As for your more favored sites like red state, stormfront, etc. I suppose they contribute to your obvious stupidity but they mean nothing around here.

        America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

        by cacamp on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 09:14:39 PM PDT

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        •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

          I've never heard of stormfront. Maybe I've got storm troopers on my mind, but that sounds vaguely neo-nazi. Is it?  As for red state (and free republic, for that matter), I've never looked at either of those sites. I've followed a link or two to the Drudge Report (I had a strong feeling the story about Edwards' affair wasn't bullshit), but other than that, I haven't checked out right-wing sites.

          I usually know bullshit when I see it. I steer away from it when I can. Here, I hope to find better, but often I do have to wade through a lot of bullshit to find it.

          Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

          by FischFry on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 10:08:25 PM PDT

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          •  There was one other time.... (0+ / 0-)

            When the Weiner weiner story first broke, I did read the factless, utterly speculative defenses here -- and the attacks on some guy who was feeding the Weiner story. It bothered me, and the whole thing smelled funny to me. So, I did some digging and I went into some old stuff (can't remember if hey were tweets or on a board somewhere) and found that they'd been trying to catch him in the act because they had what they regarded as well-founded suspicions. I have to admit that I promptly decided Weiner was bullshitting, and that with respect to his following young girls on Twitter, I wrote here that those defending him weren't making any sense.

            The Edwards story was painful for me because I had been a volunteer on his first Presidential campaign and was doing some volunteer work on his second, too -- when the Drudge story first appeared (almost a year before the baby story broke). I loved his agenda, but when I talked to him, I didn't get a good feeling...and the haircut and hedge fund stories didn't help buttress my confidence in him, either. So, when I saw a piece here about a rumor about him on Drudge, I checked that out.

            What I've learned from that is to look critically and don't jump the gun to think those on the right are incapable of telling the truth or being right about something. More importantly, though, I've also seen the madness that can take over this site, defending the indefensible because they're on "our side" and king overboard in attacking those on the right, accusing them of the most awful conspiratorial stuff. Most of them want to believe they're being patriotic  and just in exposing the bad stuff on our side. Are they trying all sorts of dirty tricks to win elections? Sure. But, without evidence, I'm not prepared to assume and charge that someone on their side is rigging the machines. Is it possible? Yes, but it's also correct that we shouldn't be promoting conspiracy theories without any evidence.. There may actually be some limits on their dirty tricks -- a red line even GOPpers won't cross. Right now, I'm proposing we start with that assumption, until we have some evidence otherwise.

            Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

            by FischFry on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 10:33:31 PM PDT

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