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  •  Just to be a pedantic immigration lawyer, (7+ / 0-)

    notwithstanding that business about renouncing foreign princes in the naturalization oath, that doesn't necessarily strip the person of a foreign citizenship.  See for example http://travel.state.gov/... the State Department's dual nationality page.

    That includes this statement:

    [A] person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another.
    Incidentally, I've always heard of them picking up green cards at the naturalization oath ceremony, but I didn't realize they picked up foreign passports.  Learn something new every day.
    •  Please, be a pedantic immigration lawyer (3+ / 0-)
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      blueyedace2, Catte Nappe, Timaeus

      That's one of the things I love about this community, the diversity and breadth of knowledge.

      Good to know Canada doesn't hate me for cheating on her with another Country. :0)   Although, since I don't actually have family in Canada, I'd be much more likely to move to Berlin where my Cousins and my Aunts live.

      If you ever get to the place where injustice doesn't bother you, you're dead. ~~ Molly Ivins

      by zoebear on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 04:34:09 PM PDT

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      •  Though Germany is one country where oath does (3+ / 0-)
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        take effect.

        When I renew my German passport, I have to show my Green Card to prove I haven't naturalized.

        •  Yes. My Mother was a little surprised (1+ / 0-)
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          when I became a U.S. citizen.  She thought I would've been able to get a dual citizenship between Canada and Germany because both she and my Father never naturalized and remained German citizens.  But I'm not sure if that's true.

          If you ever get to the place where injustice doesn't bother you, you're dead. ~~ Molly Ivins

          by zoebear on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 04:56:12 PM PDT

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          •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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            Timaeus

            That is what I have, in additional to my Green Card. German citizenship is passed through, lack of the better word, blood. Canadian citizenship, like American citizenship is passed onto through presence(i.e. you are born in the country. You are a citizen).

            Germany essentially permits "involuntary" dual citizenship. I.e. you are born in one country and your parents(the rule are complicated) are German.

            German does allow for naturalization, but it permit has be acquired before the naturalization proceeding.

            of course IANAL, but someone who has learned a lot about immigration policies and dealing the USCIS.

    •  They didn't pick up my passport (1+ / 0-)
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      Timaeus

      but then I didn't have it with me either.  That was early this year so perhaps things have changed.  I have brand new US and Canadian passports this year.

      Picking up the green cards makes sense (although I would have liked to keep mine as a memento) as I guess there is a probably a black market for them.

      "We are normal and we want our freedom" - Bonzos

      by matching mole on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 05:53:50 PM PDT

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