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  •  Why get rid of it? (11+ / 0-)

    The way it stands now, the electoral college neutralizes the radical right wing states that give the GOP huge margins. They can run up the score as much as they want and it makes no difference in the end. And I think moving forward the electoral math will favor us more and more, state by state, with the hispanic vote and the anti-bigot vote as young people continue replacing the hardline elderly bigots. Before long Arizona will follow Colorado and Nevada into the purple-leaning-blue column and that right there is a major tilt if it can become pernanent. So long as democrats keep running "reasonably" good candidates and the republicans keep running religious Li'l Abners, we should be in pretty good shape.

    There are two types of republicans, the rich and the stupid. The rich ones strive to keep the stupid ones stupid and the stupid ones strive to keep the rich ones rich.

    by frankzappatista on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 01:44:56 PM PDT

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    •  Because it makes some votes count more than others (6+ / 0-)

      I live in Maryland and could vote for Kermit the Frog for all it matters - the state's going to go for Obama in a landslide. But if I lived just a few miles away, I'd be in Virginia, and my vote would be a really big deal. It's nonsensical and contrary to any principles of good governance to have some votes count vastly more than others.

    •  Today NV and CO, tomorrow AZ and TX (2+ / 0-)
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      When changing demographics flip Texas (probably still a decade away), the electoral college will make it virtually impossible for a Republican to be elected President.

      •  I don't like that system, even if it benefits us (0+ / 0-)

        We don't go around trying to purge Republicans from the voter rolls for no reason.

        In the same way, I don't want to game the system so that it's rigged for progressives to win, even though it would probably be good for America.

        That's our biggest weakness. We're like Batman and the Republicans are the Joker. Just like the Joker can kill anyone he wants to get ahead and Batman refuses to do so, the Republicans don't care who they hurt or what they destroy as long as they win. We actually care.

        To continue the Batman analogy - the reason he doesn't kill is because he knows that if he allows himself to kill ONE TIME, it would be too easy to go around killing everyone from then on because he's already justified it.

        If we say "we'll just set up the system so Dems can't lose," a lot of bad things can happen. Imagine what those Timonthy McVeigh lunatics might try if they realize they can NEVER win an election.

        When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

        by PhillyJeff on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 02:28:26 PM PDT

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    •  It's a travesty (1+ / 0-)
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      but I will admit, it actually blunts the force of Citizens United, allowing Ds to compete where it matters, against the money the Rs are able to throw at the race.  A small hahaha, at the folks who brought us both Bush v Gore, and Citizens United

    •  I will support elimination of the EC (5+ / 0-)

      only when redistricting is required to be more neutral so indeed we move toward one person one vote. And all states adopt vote by mail like WA and OR to restrict opportunities for voter suppression. And Citizens United is killed off via constitutional amendment.

      Rhubarb is a metaphor for finding happiness in your own back yard.

      by CoyoteMarti on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 02:38:18 PM PDT

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