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  •  Actually, it's going behind a paywall (14+ / 0-)

    Newsweek will be an iPad app you have to subscribe to, while The Daily Beast will remain free, featuring some Newsweek content for free. I just can't see it doing much better than The Daily.

    As to this diary, thanks Kos for the clarification. I was thinking that the main Netroots voices are still here, on Twitter, and in other lefty parts of the web. I definitely was misled by the article (including a Retweet I saw of someone not visiting DKos anymore) that your numbers were way down. Glad to hear that is absolutely not true.

    I have definitely been coming here more often in the last few weeks. But admittedly, when civil war breaks out, I usually take a break (the health care wars drove me away for a time).

    •  oh, in that case it's going to die. (11+ / 0-)

      The New York Times model is viable: they let you read an occasional article without being a subscriber, but if you want to read it a lot you have to subscribe.  

      That makes good sense because a) there's enough free online content around, that failing to provide it causes loss of readership, and b) printed media enable people to take a free peek at the news-stand before they buy, and c) it's good marketing sense because it attracts subscribers.

      But total paywall?  If Newsweek does that, it's a shortcut to total irrelevance and ignominious market-death.  

      And putting "some" of the content on Daily Beast doesn't count: the branding is totally different, so it does not accrue brand equity to Newsweek at all.  

      I would be willing to guess that the cultural & psychological demographics of readers attracted to the brand "Daily Beast," is wholly different to those of readers attracted to the brand "Newsweek."  They could support each other in certain ways, but dumping the "Newsweek" brand, or hiding it behind a paywall, is a shortcut to going all-four-paws-up-in-the-air.  

      "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

      by G2geek on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 05:15:41 PM PDT

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      •  It comes down to quality, too. (3+ / 0-)
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        I subscribe to the NYT because there is so much there. Not just hard news but the arts, technology, book reviews, etc. That is not the case with Newsweek. And really, if you want a weekly magazine to catch up on the news The Week beats them all.

      •  yes... and (1+ / 0-)
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        The New York Times model is viable: they let you read an occasional article without being a subscriber, but if you want to read it a lot you have to subscribe.  

        That makes good sense because a) there's enough free online content around, that failing to provide it causes loss of readership, and b) printed media enable people to take a free peek at the news-stand before they buy, and c) it's good marketing sense because it attracts subscribers.

        d) The Times does real journalism sometimes.

        "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics" - F.D.R.

        by biscobosco on Wed Oct 24, 2012 at 08:16:34 PM PDT

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