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  •  I am sort of a canary (5+ / 0-)

    In a coal mine example.  Most people probably don't have severe reactions to GMO.  I have severe hives within a few hours of eating either GMO corn or wheat.  No issue with certified organic.  

    I need to know what I'm eating.

    •  I have no problem with that (2+ / 0-)

      But, is it GMO period, or is it certain kinds of GMO?  That's my current dilemma.

      If Yes on 37 passes, will you avoid anything and everything that's labelled GMO - not just corn and wheat, but everything? Or do other GMO foods not trigger this allergic reaction?  If not, could it be because of the particular type of GMO that is being used with corn and wheat?  If so, then isn't that an important difference that should be reflected on a GMO label?

      I believe that food should be labelled.  I'm just not sure, anymore, that this particular proposition does the task correctly.  To use an analogy - some people have allergies to particular natural foods.  For the sake of this hypothetical, let's use shellfish.  If something was labelled, simply, "seafood," people who have no problem eating halibut, salmon, etc. would have to avoid it because it might or might not be shellfish.  For the moment, until I do further research and/or hear rebuttals from the other side that specifically address this concern, the proposal of a catch-all GMO label is sounding much like the same sort of thing.

    •  That's odd. (1+ / 0-)
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      Because there is no GMO wheat.

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      by mem from somerville on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:56:40 AM PDT

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      •  There is GMO wheat and it is licensed (2+ / 0-)

        but you are correct that it is not in commercial production to the point where it is likely to be found in mass market food.

        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:56:44 AM PDT

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        •  And this is precisely the point (0+ / 0-)

          Who know for sure.  It's not labeled.

          I can't tell exactly what foods are causing the exact problems because there are no labels. I'm guessing. Everyone is guessing.

          I do know what I am eating can make me very sick. No its not just wheat and corn. But without any labels I don't have any reasonable method of sorting it out.

          If it was a straight allergy thing that would narrow the field but I have other family members, close and distant experiencing some disturbing symptoms from certain foods.   Not the typical allergic reaction  Bottom line is we must have labels to even begin the process of elimination.

    •  There have been claims related to possible (0+ / 0-)

      allergies to the Bt in corn, but it's hard to pinpoint for a couple of reasons.  One is that it's extremely rare, with the only cases so far reported having to do not with any allergenic property in the Bt itself, but with preexisting illnesses/sensitivies on the part of the the people exposed.  Another is that it wouldn't be an allergy to Bt in itself, but to a protein in one of the bacteria, which is again hard to determine (and would be a problem even with organic produce sprayed with Bt, the most commonly used pesticide for organics.)  

      So it's tough to pinpoint exactly what your reaction might have been to, but it doesn't seem to be the usual suspect.

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      by pico on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:11:14 AM PDT

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      •  It's definitely not the usual (0+ / 0-)

        But there is a serious lag on the reporting of these types of problems. Most doctors tend to shrug it off and pass out the cortisone.
        We need more active pursuit of the problem. Autoimmune, allergies, autism, a whole spectrum of illnesses have gone from rare to epidemic in my lifetime. My grandchildren are really suffering. And I would bet my life it is our food supply. The supposedly tested, safe, good for you ADA approved stuff in the American diet.
        Actually I probably am betting my life on it. So are a lot of other people.  

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