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  •  Remember Florida 2000 (32+ / 0-)

    I was on a college campus in Florida in 2000.  Ralph Nader had a very strong following there.  Lots of us felt let down by Bill Clinton's scandals and constant triangulating.  The so called liberal media mocked Al Gore's wooden speaking style while falling for George W Bush's "compassionate conservatism," and some progressives (like Bill Maher) kept saying there was no difference between the two of them.  I voted for Al Gore, and am still proud of voting for the most pro-environmental candidate we've ever had, but lots of the students voted for Nader.
    Imagine if those 537 votes (less than 1% of the voted Nader win in Florida) had gone to Al Gore.  No Iraq War.  No violation of our civil liberties.  No irresponsible tax cuts for the rich.  No deregulation and bubble economy leading to financial collapse.
    Now think carefully about how you vote this time around.  There is only one progressive candidate who can actually win.  He's not perfect.  But he's on the right side, and he's shown that he can "evolve" on the issues when his progressive base pushes him in the right direction.
    Obama 2012!

    •  In the sci-fi movie.... (6+ / 0-)

      called "The One" there is an alternate world, where they imply that Gore is president :). Its a short mention, but the main character goes to this alternate world (watch the movie) and the TV shows Gore in the state of the union address ...LOL

    •  Imagine we had debunked Republican lie. (2+ / 0-)
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      bsmechanic, northsylvania

      For 42 years, I've listened to Republicans whine about the "liberal media.

      For 42 years, I've watched the Republicans act as though they knew the media was on their side.

      Something I haven't witnessed is a Democrat in a leadership position expose the Republican behavior as a total contradiction.

      I know that of all the quantifiable technicalities that let Bush carry Florida, the Nader vote is the first or second largest. (I've heard different versions of how many people were falsely accused of being convicted felons for the purpose of purging them from the voter rolls.) It is tempting to blame Nader. (One number I don't have is how many Nader Traders were out there--how many Floridians voted for Gore because they were assured that Gore voters in safe states would cast votes for Nader where they wouldn't hurt.)

      However, I believe that at least 5% of the voters are swayed by the constant repetition of the GOP lie, and if the lie had been debunked, that would have been enough to defeat Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania. If Nader had chosen not to run, Santorum would have won.

      The Nader Hating I see only serves to insulate the Centrists who think the world revolves around themselves to stiff the Democratic base--that because they've guilt-tripped so many in the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, they've prevented any real check on the insiders' control of the party.

      The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

      by Judge Moonbox on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 08:42:05 PM PDT

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    •  More Democrats voted for Bush in Florida (7+ / 0-)

      than voted for Nader. And the election was systematically stolen. The idea that Bush won by 537 votes is hallucinatory.
        I voted for Gore, but Nader had every right to run and people had every right to vote for him.
        Obama's an ok President and he's accomplished a lot, but to call him a progressive is stretching a point. And his record on civil liberties is dismal.
        Obama would have fit comfortably into the Eisenhower administration. He is the best choice in this election because the Republicans have gone completely nuts.

      •  No one is talking about "rights" (2+ / 0-)
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        TheDuckManCometh, janemas

        The point is what is good strategy. Voting for a 3rd party candidate is rarely good strategy in a two-party system.

        •  That sort of thinking is self-perpetuating (1+ / 0-)
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          Judge Moonbox

          If you only ever vote for the two major parties, they have no need to make changes to accommodate people who don't really like them but vote for them anyway.

          Especially if you're in a state that has been neutered by the Electoral College, please vote your conscience rather than just checking the box for D all the way down.

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