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  •  You're still slipping around here (none)
    It would be one thing if this outlandish post had just appeared on DKos. But it was actually eaten up by a bunch of readers, and recommended. Recommending brings a level of responsibility with it. The original post didn't deserve recommending. It's as simple as that.

    Reality-based progressive.

    by Pops on Wed May 18, 2005 at 02:47:51 PM PDT

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    •  I recommended because (4.00)
      I thought it was worth looking in to further, discussing, debating.  Which is what dailykos is so good for.

      I didn't recommend it because I immediately thought the 9000 number was true.

      As you can see by my posting about a soldier listed on the DOD total who died in US hospital.

      I think we disagree about what it means to recommend a diary.

      •  That could be the issue (none)
        And it's probably not worthwhile to start the discussion here, but in short I'd say that a diary post with outrageous allegations made without evidence is one that I wouldn't recommend.

        Reality-based progressive.

        by Pops on Wed May 18, 2005 at 03:31:52 PM PDT

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        •  Outrageous is in the eye of... (4.00)
          An outrageousness radar test.

          Please rate the following possible diary subjects, which I may or may not be posting in the next 24 hours, as Outrageous, Plausible, Worth Investigating, or  True!

          Up until the 1970s the U.S. government studied the effects of syphylis on American black men. As they slowly died, they never told them what disease they had--or that it could be easily  treated.

          The U.S. government once tried to develop a space ship that would be propelled...by atomic bombs that would be blown up behind it at regular intervals.

          The U.S government tested Agent Orange--on Canadian military bases. Thousands of Canadian soldiers were contaminated.

          P.S. Pops, I know I'm not including the issue of sources or evidence here, which you rightly brought up. I post this only because I believe there are, and reasonably so, widely divergent views on what is "plausible." Perhaps that needs further investigation...

          Anything by Loudon Wainwright III

          by Earl on Wed May 18, 2005 at 03:47:55 PM PDT

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          •  Outrageousness can be ... (none)
            ...made less outrageous by citing some credible sources, which the Diary in question didn't do. On the contrary, its only link took us to a much discredited site which presented the "evidence" without any links of its own.

            When the Associated Press story on the Tuskegee experiment broke, it was totally vetted.

            •  Yes (none)
              I tried to say as much in my comment. I was focusing on something that I think was relevant in the conversation in the comments: that some things can seem outrageous and ridiculous on first glance, but turn out to be true. I hoped to not divert from the need for sources and evidence.

              And in case those who read that comment aren't aware, all of those stories actually happened.

              Anything by Loudon Wainwright III

              by Earl on Wed May 18, 2005 at 07:29:11 PM PDT

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          •  True Story (none)
            "The U.S government tested Agent Orange--on Canadian military bases. Thousands of Canadian soldiers were contaminated."

            Federal officials unsure how many affected by Agent Orange tests in N.B.
            May. 17, 2005

            FREDERICTON (CP) - Federal officials say they have no idea how many people may have been affected by the testing of the herbicide Agent Orange at a Canadian military base in New Brunswick 40 years ago.

            Janice Summerby, spokeswoman for the Veterans' Affairs Department, said Tuesday that since 2000 the department has considered 21 applications for disability pensions, but only two have been granted.

            She said most of those applications were from people who were at Canadian Forces Base Gagetown in 1966 when Agent Orange, now known to be hazardous to human health, was tested by the U.S. military on the base's forests.

            The fact that Agent Orange was sprayed at CFB Gagetown in the 1960s has been a matter of public record since the early 1980s. In 1981, the military gave journalists an aerial tour of the areas sprayed, all of which had long since grown over with foliage.

            This Canuck still loves John Kerry

            by edie on Wed May 18, 2005 at 07:34:31 PM PDT

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