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  •  i tried to help you (1+ / 0-)
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    by giving you the link to read.

    No need to thank me.

    And remember: if we fail on climate change, nothing else matters. - WarrenS

    by LaughingPlanet on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:22:05 PM PDT

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    •  I didn't need someone to search for me. (4+ / 0-)
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      I was trying to make a point.

      Let's be serious: if President Obama had referenced the Gish Gallop, most people would have had no idea what he was talking about.  

      Perhaps, you say, this is good!  People will learn something.

      Well, no, not really.  Because a) "Gish Gallop" is a goofy sounding phrase, and it would be said over and over by pundits, each jumping over each other to say what it was.  Casual viewers would be confused.

      b)  We'd then start talking about Gish, and creationism, of all effed up things.  And then it would be about the president being a crypto-atheist-fascist-Muslim.  The point about the debating technique would have been thoroughly lost.

      I think it's great that someone named the technique and explained it here at DKos.  It would be even better if this understanding were more widely spread.  But the absolute last person who should even acknowledge he knows who Gish is -- if he does, he's a busy man -- is the president.

      © cai Visit 350.org to join the fight against global warming.

      by cai on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:28:54 PM PDT

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      •  My concept ... (0+ / 0-)

        is that the Obama-Biden campaign would pump out a one-pager, the second the President used the term, explaining why "Romnesia" drove the President to the term.  

        The media, writ large, is doing a lousy job at laying out for the public Etch-a-Sketch Mitt's shifting (and shifty) nature on policy issue after policy issue.  

        This is / was my concept for a tool to leverage to force that sort of attention.

        Linking Mitt to creationism, imo, works well politically -- how many of those who believe the earth is 6000 years old are doing GOTV for Obama-Biden?

        Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart NOW! for a sustainable energy future.

        by A Siegel on Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 05:07:15 AM PDT

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