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  •  Thanks, Ben. (none)
    I get smarter everyday.

    Excellent points.

    •  So you're saying . . . (4.00)

       . . . you read DarkSyde's and SusanHu's Diaries and not mine???  Is that what you're saying?!  I don't have to take this abuse!  GBCBob!


      P.S. -- Thanks.  And, of course, the bottom line is that we've got to do better bumper stickers than the bad guys.  Dems' and liberals' propensity to use irony and literary allusions are killing us in the bumper sticker wars!

      . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

      by BenGoshi on Wed May 18, 2005 at 02:56:07 PM PDT

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      •  I read your diary, too. (none)
        It spurred me to write my own.  Please note that I updated my diary to reflect your comments and the comments of a few other fine contributors.

        And I'm all for straightforward bumoer stickers.  We're not dealing with folks who get irony.

        •  *That's* a bumper sticker! (none)

           "We're Not Dealing With
             Folks Who Get Irony."


          Well. . .  it would be a great bumper sticker, but for all the irony.


          . . . religion is not a syllogism, but a poem. H.L. Mencken

          by BenGoshi on Wed May 18, 2005 at 03:37:04 PM PDT

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      •  here's what I want on my bumper (none)
        "and crown thy good with brotherhood
        from sea to shining sea."
      •  actually I think liberals (none)
        are winning the bumper sticker wars hands down: I'm sure more liberal bumper stickers get sold than conservative ones do, and the liberal ones tend to be funnier and sharper.

        I don't think the problem is the slogans and bumper stickers, it's whether or not any Dem pols (besides Conyers, Boxer, and a few others) could actually get a job writing the bumper stickers.

        Kerry was not really a great sloganeer, for instance.

        I think we HAVE the frames, we just need politicians who are actually willing to USE them. I mean what did Galloway do yesterday? All he did was use the word "lies" (gasp!) to describe Bush's Iraq policy.  

        Nothing too complicated there.

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