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  •  I've always seen a refusal to vote, or a vote (4+ / 0-)
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    BlueZ, mom2dems, distraught, CoyoteMarti

    (in a swing state) for a candidate who has no earthly chance of winning, as being essentially half a vote for EACH candidate.

    As in, if you don't vote, you have effectively cast 0.5 votes for Obama and 0.5 votes for Romney.  

    Not voting is still voting.  You're only pretending to be morally pure.

    Now, if your son actually believes the two are equivalent, then not voting might make sense.  If he doesn't, well, he should make a choice.

    But if this is his choice and he's made it, it may just be for the best to say, "I hope you'll change your mind," and then change the subject.

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    by cai on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 04:50:49 PM PDT

    •  I'd go further with specifics... (3+ / 0-)
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      cai, mom2dems, CoyoteMarti

      It means you're saying that....

      a.  Scalia is equivalent to Kagen on the Supreme Court
      b.  Tax cuts for the rich are the same as tax relief for the middle class
      c.  Getting into a ground war is the same as peace
      d.  Self-deportation is the same as a rational attempt at dealing with immigration reform
      e.  Having Obamacare is the same as nothing

      and so on....

      If those equivalencies are true in his mind, by all means don't vote.  If he believes that they are not the same, vote for the side he believes in, which ever it is.

      •  Well, others have covered that. (1+ / 0-)
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        mom2dems

        My point was about busting the myth of personal purity.  

        Someone who is withholding a vote out of protest may be doing it so it will be noticed as disapproval.  It might, but no one will interpret it as saying "move to the left," as another commenter says below.

        Or, someone withholding a vote out of protest may simply be most concerned with their own conscience and being morally upright in what they do.  

        In which case, I think it's important to point out that the mathematical effect of not voting is one half vote for EACH.  Which means you haven't avoided sullying yourself, you've just tied yourself to the victory of either candidate.

        You can't get out of your citizenship responsibility so easily.  

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        by cai on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 05:11:20 PM PDT

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      •  Thank you...just what I need. (1+ / 0-)
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        CoyoteMarti

        "Never separate the life you live from the words you speak." "Sometimes, the only realists are the dreamers." Paul Wellstone

        by mom2dems on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 05:35:14 PM PDT

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    •  Not strictly true (0+ / 0-)

      your vote is divided among all candidates by percentage.  OK, that comes out to 49.98 R and 49.98 D

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