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  •  One of the crew rescued from the HMS Bounty (6+ / 0-)

    died after rescue and the captain is still missing.  

    Crew memeber of abandonded ship dies after being rescued

    "It's one of the biggest seas I've ever been in. It was huge out there," said Coast Guard rescue swimmer Randy Haba, who helped pluck four crew members off one of the canopied life rafts and a fifth who was bobbing alone in the waves.

    A helicopter pilot said the waves appeared to be 30 feet high during the rescue. The Coast Guard said in a news release that waves in many places topped out around 18 feet.

    Great Coast Guard rescue video at the link.

    As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

    by JaxDem on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 04:32:46 AM PDT

    •   "...A SHIP IS SAFER AT SEA THAN IN PORT...!" (5+ / 0-)
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      "Rest assured that the Bounty is safe and in very capable hands. Bounty's current voyage is a calculated decision ... NOT AT ALL ... irresponsible or with a lack of foresight as some have suggested. The fact of the matter is ... A SHIP IS SAFER AT SEA THAN IN PORT!"
      Evidently the people aren't.  Is this the best example of deluded hubris we've seen since Rumsfeld said the Iraq War would take 2 years and $40 billion?

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 04:48:35 AM PDT

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      •  I think they waited too late to leave port (4+ / 0-)
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        AND I think they grossly underestimated the seas.

        It is true that a ship is safer at sea than in port.  That is why you see the navy deploy their ships during a hurricane.  Norfolk emptied out her basin a few days prior.

        As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

        by JaxDem on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 04:52:16 AM PDT

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        •  Counterintuitive (3+ / 0-)
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          To leave a port and sail a sailboat into a hurricane is safer? if its true a ship is safer at sea than in a port in a hurricane, why were they the only sailboat out there?

          Happy just to be alive

          by exlrrp on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 05:07:30 AM PDT

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            U.S. Navy send ships to sea ahead of frankenstorm

            The U.S. Navy on Friday ordered all ships in the Norfolk, Virginia, area - including the nuclear-powered USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier - out to sea beyond the reach of approaching Hurricane Sandy.

            It was just one of the storm precautions being announced by the Pentagon, which said around 61,000 members of the National Guard were ready to respond, if needed.

            Found this:
            Q. Are cruise ships safe from hurricanes?

            A. Only if they avoid the hurricane by a healthy margin. No ship is so large, not even an aircraft carrier, that it cannot be dwarfed by an intense tropical cyclone. Not only that, but the large swells produced by a hurricane in the Atlantic, Caribbean or Eastern Pacific, or a typhoon in the western Pacific can generate large swells that can travel thousands of miles from the storm. These swells will not overly hazard a cruise ship, but might make the ship's motion more uncomfortable to those prone to motion sickness.

            The key is the "healthy margin" mentioned.

            Think of how much of a pounding the ship would receive while at anchor next to a steel pier.  It would be destroyed in no time.

            Again, the capt of the Bounty waited at least 24 hours too long before departing.  

            As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

            by JaxDem on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 05:17:33 AM PDT

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