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  •  Any word on why the DOJ (39+ / 0-)

    isn't yet suing the pants off of Romney's camp for their misleading training manuals?

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    by therehastobeaway on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 08:17:45 AM PDT

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    •  Question for Rick Hasen at http://electionlawblog (5+ / 0-)

      Right now, he has story up, but comments off for this one. He is following it.

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 11:04:41 AM PDT

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    •  IANAL but May I offer some guesses on DOJ? (3+ / 0-)
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      For all of this "chicanery" key word at rick hasen's blog and any election law blogs for WI are your friend.

      These are guesses based on my reading of Hasen over past weeks and recollection of '04 FWIW.

      1. They is disseminating wrong information. Is misinforming a crime?  Does it require proving intent to impede election and not incompetence or error?

      2. This may not be DoJ's jurisdiction, it may be state law--look up the similar situation of voter training in either AZ or NM earlier this month, I believe a Dem candidate asked for a state investigation?

      3. This is the Romney campaign in one place in WI. Racine.

      4. If it is a DoJ jurisdiction and it is a potential crime [and that's a big IF], it may be that there are no charges are brought close to elections to avoid chilling the process.

      all this is IMHO.

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 11:27:21 AM PDT

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      •  My god. (1+ / 0-)
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        Tipped for "chicanery".

        Hellllllz yea.  Love me some proper diction.

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        by therehastobeaway on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 02:10:44 PM PDT

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      •  P.S. And thanks for your substantive thoughts! (1+ / 0-)
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        by therehastobeaway on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 02:16:30 PM PDT

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      •  The problem as to misinformation is that in some (1+ / 0-)
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        states, a challenge based on misinformation must still be acted upon, and not all of the poll operators are up on all the hustles being tried.

        To me the most important one there is the one which tries to keep those previously incarcerated from voting. Everyone should familiarize themselves with the rules of their states, because in many of them, and for most offenses, once you are entirely out of the corrections and supervision system, you can vote again, IF YOU ARE REGISTERED. This is important for those few states with same day registration, but watching the details is important, as some states eliminate some sorts of felonies from this rule and require a court order or something else now not timely to be able to get in order to vote this year, or require a wait of X years after final farewell to corrections and supervision without another visit. It's still something worth checking if your poll workers don't know, and ACLU at least in my state has a pamphlet on it.

        •  Everyone formerly incarcerated, one thing if it is (0+ / 0-)

          ...Martha Stewart or some white collar bankster, another if you are a three strikes you're out drug mule.

          Can former felons learn their rights and gain the confidence to assert them? Do they have support beyond pamphlets, that would be wonderful for society and for their own rehabilitation...

          Thanks for brings up an important point about real cases of disenfranchisement that can be remedied; what a waste if  the progressive/left just got caught up in what Rick Hasen on his election law blog to electoral trutherism.

          and that the key is knowing state law.

          "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

          by BlueStateRedhead on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 07:33:44 PM PDT

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    •  Response must include firm directives (1+ / 0-)
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      wasatch

      from current and all past Attorney Generals and Secretaries of States. These vigilantes only want intimidation, confrontation, and to deny voting rights to those they hate. Hopefully, Carter, Bush, Shrub, and Clinton can put out a collective statement as well.

    •  Do We Still Have A DOJ? (1+ / 0-)
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      pengiep

      Just asking, because I see no evidence.

      •  Lol. In all fairness, Eric Holder (1+ / 0-)
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        has been aggressive in going after certain abuses, and might presumably have done even more in his tenure as AG, had that heff__ Issa not gone on his Vroom Vroom witch hunt.

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        by therehastobeaway on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 02:15:17 PM PDT

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      •  In this particular case (1+ / 0-)
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        Christy1947

        there might just be too little time to do anything constructive, though your point has merit in general.

        sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

        by stivo on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 03:35:13 PM PDT

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