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  •  If anything, (4.00)
    this is more evidence that multiple reports have been made directly to the military with the knowledge of the government, lending credibility to the Newsweek story, and that it shouldn't have been retracted but further investigated.  

    I'm sending this to Keith Olbermann.

    Listen all of y'all it's a Sabotage! - Beastie Boys

    by See you out there on Thu May 19, 2005 at 06:15:19 AM PDT

    •  Credible reports of Koran abuse (none)
      What our government deigns to acknowledge as credible reports and what the Muslim world views as credible reports are obviously worlds apart.

      Apparently that gulf exists between the International Committee of the Red Cross and the U.S. government as well.

    •  ICRC reports preceded the 1/19/2003 guidelines (4.00)
      about the Koran, and appear to have prompted them.

      The ICRC spokesman is constrained by the organization's commitments to confidentiality and doesn't go into specifics about the incidents reported.

      A senior State Department official, speaking only on the condition that he not be named, said Wednesday the issuance of the guidelines followed the ICRC's reports and that they were "a credit to the fact that we investigate and correct practices and problems."

      But

      [Bryan] Whitman, the Pentagon spokesman, said he was not aware of "any specific precipitating event that caused the command to codify those in a written policy."

      Whitman also said, "The ICRC works very closely with us to help us identify concerns with respect to detainees on a variety of issues, to include religious issues. But I can't make any direct correlation there" between ICRC concerns on the Koran and the issuance of the 2003 guidelines.

      Well, Mark, the President has worked to elevate the discourse in this town.
      -- Scott McClellan 5/17/2005

      by coloradobl on Thu May 19, 2005 at 06:41:36 AM PDT

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      •  ICRC--between a rock and a hard place (none)
        I wish the Red Cross could be more forthcoming about the abuses they find in U.S. detention facilities overseas, but I understand their desire to maintain good terms with governments so as to be able to continue in their role of monitoring conditions in these types of facilities.

        They walk a very fine line sometimes.

      •  Denial vs. "We have improved our policy" (none)
        The Bush administration never cedes an inch and it costs us dearly in American prestige overseas. Instead of citing detainee allegations as a concern and getting the ICRC to deflect criticism by acknowledging the US implemented a very good policy in Jan 03 the White House blames Newsweek.

        The ICRC has international credibility and a statement by the US saying something to the effect "we initially equated the Koran to other religious texts but we have since improved our understanding that the Koran is not merely a text to practicing Muslims. We are now completely in compliance with Islamic tradition in the handling of the Koran". It's a non-denial denial but at least it shows respect to the Muslim world. Instead the White House treats them like idiots and spins the story for domestic consumption.

        I'm not suggesting the administration will ever admit to any mistreatment but you can hint at understanding - it's called diplomacy.

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