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  •  Obama has the right intent on Climate Change (3+ / 0-)
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    But he made some poor choices in my opinion to implement his vision.

    For instance, in the White House website, the Obama administration is praising the Copenhagen Accord as a way to meet "the climate change challenge."

    In December 2009, President Obama and other world leaders came together to negotiate the Copenhagen Accord, an important milestone in which, for the first time, all major developed and developing economies agreed to implement measures to limit their greenhouse gas emissions and to do so in an internationally transparent manner. In 2010, the Cancun Agreement confirmed and substantially extended the core elements of the Copenhagen Accord in the areas of finance, technology and adaptation as well as mitigation and transparency in an instrument that the Parties enthusiastically endorsed.
    The problem is (or at least the three major problems I see) are the following:
    The accord itself is not legally binding

    No decision was taken on whether to agree a legally binding successor or complement to the Kyoto Protocol.

    The accord sets no real targets to achieve in emissions reductions

    Having said that, on a personal level I trust advancement in addressing climate change will be strengthened under liberal leadership instead of conservative leadership.

    Too many conservatives deny basic science, and fund junk science to debunk climate change and you cannot address climate change if this is where your view starts.

    •  He does? (7+ / 0-)

      I'd not mentioned this above, but the reports are that the US delegations to Copenhagen, Durban and Cancun were trying to slow things down, until the international pressure forced a little give.  In the arena of international action, Obama has been better than Bush, but he sure as hell is no Al Gore or Jimmy Carter.

      This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

      by Mindful Nature on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 01:52:14 PM PDT

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      •  He sure as hell is better than Romney on the issue (7+ / 0-)

        And the American people agree:

        Half, or 50%, of Americans say Obama would "better handle" energy issues compared to 41% who give Romney the edge, according to a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Sept. 24-27 of 1,446 U.S. adults. Obama had a wider, 13-point lead in an Aug. 20-22 poll.
        Of course he is no Al Gore, but remember we only have two choices to run this country before us for another four years.
        •  Of course (2+ / 0-)
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          Although "energy" and climate change are not the same thing.  Being trustedore the Romney is an insanely low bar.  

          It doesn't really matter who the candidates are, since winning on this issue involves electing the least hostile candidate and then pushing him very hard.  

          This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

          by Mindful Nature on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 04:13:48 PM PDT

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          •  There's nothing the mere people can do (0+ / 0-)

            to  "push" an elected official that comes within several orders of magnitude of the influence corporate entities can bring to bear through the most routine of their daily operations.  Among the many powers that hegemony invests in Corporate America is that it allows corporate legal affairs and public relations departments define what constitutes "pragmatism" for the entirety of society on ALL matters.

            Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

            by ActivistGuy on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 05:22:37 PM PDT

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            •  What? Mere people? If activists from the... (3+ / 0-)
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              ...abolitionists onward had taken that view, where would be be? There is nothing an INDIVIDUAL can do to match the corporadoes, agreed. Collectively, however, it is another story, though I'd be the last to say it will be easy.

              Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

              by Meteor Blades on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 05:56:10 PM PDT

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              •  Here's a truth, that many of us can't imagine: (0+ / 0-)

                Most of the time, when even drastic changes are needed and undertaken by a broad swath of people, the experiences end up being not nearly as "painful and hard" as anticipated.  

                "Evil is a lack of empathy, a total incapacity to feel with their fellow man." - Capt. Gilbert,Psychiatrist, at the end of Nuremberg trials.

                by 417els on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 07:40:44 PM PDT

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