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  •  Be Very, Very, Worried.... (3+ / 0-)

    This is shaping up to be the Florida of 2012. You have a Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who has been brazen about trying to steal the election. You have the Romney campaign saying that their internal polling shows them ahead giving the plausible cover. There are Right-wing pundits all over the media giving validation to the idea that Romney is leading.You have 2004 where all the exit polling showed Ohio going for John Kerry then the switcheroo at the end.
    This has all the signs of a Republican dirty trick.

    •  presumably (4+ / 0-)
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      annieli, Stwriley, skohayes, tb mare

      the Obama team has a lawyer or two to keep an eye on things?

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      by KibbutzAmiad on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 04:58:10 AM PDT

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      •  every election since 2000 probably has legal SWAT (5+ / 0-)

        Fired up and Ready to go:

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        by annieli on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:01:49 AM PDT

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        •  I think so (5+ / 0-)

          My former boss who's an attorney in California flew to Ohio in 2008 to keep an eye on the election there. Wouldn't be surprised if she's doing it again this year.

          •  The UN will be monitoring some (3+ / 0-)
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            annieli, dianamherrera, One Opinion

            elections.
            What Democrats need to watch out for are the overly aggressive and ill-informed "True The Vote" people, who are backed by powerful lawyers and RNC people, even though they're passing themselves off as a "grassroots" group.
            Please know the laws in your state (some poll workers are insisting on seeing ID when none is required), and be prepared to defend your right to vote.

            One key piece of evidence that’s been repeated against and again by True the Vote leaders is the story of a vacant lot where multiple voters were registered. True the Vote considered it a smoking gun. However, according to Doug Ray, the senior deputy attorney in the Harris County Attorney’s Office, the vacant lot had been a subdivided house until the owner sold it and everything was knocked down. “It’s not an example of voter fraud, “ Ray says. “It’s just an example of how mobile the population of Houston is.”

            The voter-registration drive has become part of True the Vote lore. In his talk, Virginia Voters Alliance leader Reagan George references the vacant-lot story. A leader of Verify the Vote Arizona goes further in the group’s video, saying Houston Votes tried to registered 100,000 people in one month. After Engelbrecht requested the new registrations, he says “it was found that 70,000 [of the registrations] were questionable. In other words, there was a 70 percent error rate.”

            But according to Fred Lewis, the leader of Houston Votes, the group had only submitted 29,000 voter-registration applications when True the Vote began to complain; 80 percent were accepted. Lewis said that after the True the Vote claims, the registration drive’s funding largely dried up and volunteers quit. “Houston Votes was viciously and falsely attacked for alleged ‘voter fraud’ to impede our voter registration of lower income and minority citizens and to scare up Tea Party poll watchers for minority areas,” he wrote in an e-mail.

            http://prospect.org/...

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            by skohayes on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 06:35:39 AM PDT

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    •  oh FFS (3+ / 0-)
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      You have a Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who has been brazen about trying to steal the election.
      I think that Jon Husted's opposition to the Ohio voter ID bill probably had a larger impact on the election there than any position or action he has taken on early voting or anything else. If he has been brazen, it has been a fairly subtle brazen. When Ken Blackwell said that voter registration applications should be rejected unless they were printed on sufficiently heavy paper, that was brazen.
      You have the Romney campaign saying that their internal polling shows them ahead giving the plausible cover.
      Plausible to whom? Freepers?
      There are Right-wing pundits all over the media giving validation to the idea that Romney is leading.
      Y'know what Dick Morris was saying at this point in 2008? "Don't write Obama off." Generous of him, eh?
      You have 2004 where all the exit polling showed Ohio going for John Kerry then the switcheroo at the end.
      You have 2004 where the late pre-election poll averages showed Ohio going for Bush by about 2 points, which it did. Meanwhile, the exit poll (aka "all the exit polling") showed Kerry winning it by 6.5, which was nuts. (The early tabulations showed Kerry winning by less, because they compromise between the exit poll data and previous expectations.)
      This has all the signs of a Republican dirty trick.
      Yes, this is excellent news for McCain Romney!

      Election protection: there's an app for that! -- and a toll-free hotline: 866-OUR-VOTE
      Better Know Your Voting System with the Verifier!

      by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:05:13 AM PDT

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    •  I'm more concerned about the fact (3+ / 0-)

      that power is still out (and may be until Monday, at least) in parts of Cuyahoga County. Also an article I just read about the fact that some Ohio absentee ballots may be mistakenly rejected:

      Some absentee ballots rejected over glitch
      Some absentee ballots statewide may have been mistakenly rejected following a glitch. The Plain Dealer reports the state has just now mailed about 33-thousand updated voter registration records to local election boards. That means that some who have already voted absentee will have their ballots rejected because election officials did not have their current addresses. Secretary of State Jon Husted said the delay was caused by a breakdown in the data-sharing partnership between the state and the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. Cuyahoga County’s elections board tells the Plain Dealer it will send new ballot applications to those with updated records.
      Link

      Ohio may be closer than we'd like and any of these glitches affecting Dem voters or Dem areas of the state are not good.

      I'm a dyslexic agnostic insomniac. I lie awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

      by rennert on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:25:23 AM PDT

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      •  link to the Plain Dealer story: (2+ / 0-)
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        "State data glitch delays delivery..."

        An unknown number of absentee ballot applications across the state have been rejected due to the delay because election officials did not have some voters’ current addresses.

        Officials in Cuyahoga County said 71 such applications were rejected. Those voters now will be sent new absentee ballots. Figures for rejected absentee ballot applications in other counties were not immediately available.

        Cuyahoga has more than a tenth of the state's voters, and probably a higher than usual proportion of address changes. So probably this affected under 1,000 people. But it shouldn't have happened at all.

        Election protection: there's an app for that! -- and a toll-free hotline: 866-OUR-VOTE
        Better Know Your Voting System with the Verifier!

        by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:39:09 AM PDT

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    •  bullshit (4+ / 0-)
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      just stop, ok? No one is stealing elections.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 05:26:18 AM PDT

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    •  Instead of wasting time (2+ / 0-)
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      MRobDC, askew

      being afraid, why don't you connect with OFA in your state and make some phone calls to voters Ohio or Florida?
      Your few comments here at DK have all the signs of a concern troll, though that could be written off to just being misinformed.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 06:26:48 AM PDT

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    •  pfft (1+ / 0-)
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      You think the Obama campaign isn't all over Husted? Those boot prints on his ass, where do you think they came from?

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