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  •  maybe (0+ / 0-)

    or maybe everyone who is insulting me is doing it wrong. Im ready to try to convince you if you are ready to stop with the insults I would be glad to explain my position.

    Any fool with no dignity can throw insults anonymously. Only someone mature and honest will try to communicate his or her point of view.

    •  Hint: it's unlikely to be everyone else (4+ / 0-)

      Rather than you.  This is a good rule of thumb in any situation.

      Next rule: you're in a hole.  STOP DIGGING.

      In capitalist America, bank robs you!

      by madhaus on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 12:45:03 AM PDT

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      •  sometimes that's true (0+ / 0-)

        I firmly believe it is not in this case. Discuss it with me if you wish.

        •  You're still digging (1+ / 0-)
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          It's apparent you think you're right, that's why several people told you that you were wrong.  Are you even open to the possibility that you're wrong and making it worse with each reply, which is why people get frustrated with you and then you say you were insulted.

          I'm watching these dynamics play out and it doesn't look good for you.  You are coming across as either unaware of aspects of communication (you seemed to miss some hints and later some sarcasm from others) or so wrapped up in your own awesomeness that nobody else's opinion means squat.  Your replying to every single comment and begging for mojo suggest either extreme insecurity or unawareness of how to behave on a community site.

          I really don't want to discuss it more than that.  These diaries are a mistake and several people advised you to take them down.  When unrelated people keep giving you similar advice, it's not very likely they're all wrong.

          In capitalist America, bank robs you!

          by madhaus on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 12:56:03 AM PDT

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          •  several things are wrong (0+ / 0-)

            I am very open to being wrong, hence why I am in the field of science. But the argument has to be made properly. And since this is the first time I am actually debating with you the merits of my argument, Im surprised youare giving up so easily. And I say I am insulted because I am insulted. This is easily proven, you can go back and you can see the FIRST comment by many of you guys is an insult, and mine is a polite inquiry.

            How it looks or doesn't look has no bearing on who is right and who is wrong. In fact I do catch the sarcasm, but I choose not to respond with spite, but with some sportiveness.

            And Ive failed so many times in my research and my professors have put me down so many times that I don't feel I am awesome at all. I am always willing to learn. But you have to provide your evidence first.

            And no one really countered my argument. Is it an HRable offense to counter lies that the right throws out? If that is the case, Kos, Jed and others do it all the time. I see no counter argument to this. Just insults. If you wish to provide one, Im happy to listen.

            •  Please look up Dunning-Kruger effect (0+ / 0-)

              The problem here is you literally cannot see what you are doing wrong, but almost everyone else can.  You may be able to do science, but this is rhetoric, communication and politics, and there are things you don't seem to be picking up on.

              And again, saying over and over that you're right will drive away most of your discourse partners.  

              Stop. Digging.

              In capitalist America, bank robs you!

              by madhaus on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 01:27:01 AM PDT

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              •  buddy that's fine (0+ / 0-)

                But that's what it is. I don't understand why this diary is HRable. It makes no sense to me. And Maybe its my fault, but I don't see it.

                Im not saying over and over that Im right, Im just trying to defend my point of view.

      •  Ive argued against several professors at once (0+ / 0-)

        before and have been right. I have argued against them several times before and have been wrong. As you say it is mostly the latter, but I don't know until I try.

        •  You tried. Feedback says this wasn't good. (0+ / 0-)

          Now you argue with those who share their advice.  Even if you disagree, don't belabor your absolute rightness of your actions.  Besides, your reporting that you argued with your profs and were right could just be another example of you insisting you were right but nobody else agreed with you and got tired of the arguments, so you assumed end of the argument means you're right rather than everyone else just got sick of you never backing down.

          Read some other diaries and look at the comments.  Very few diarists feel the need to argue with everything they disagree with.  Sometimes it's a good idea to let the commenters throw some ideas around and see where the discussion goes.

          In capitalist America, bank robs you!

          by madhaus on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 01:05:11 AM PDT

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          •  no science doesn't work like that (0+ / 0-)

            if you are right you publish it. I had publishable data based on a hypothesis I had. They agreed, so it was published. But don't get me wrong, that was rare as a blue moon. My point is it happens, and my professors encourage it.

            As I said, I think I am right and defending that position until someone provides evidence that I am wrong, your argument that I shouldn't belabor it- well I don't know what to say about that. Should I just let people insult me and HR me for no justifiable reason?

            And if you read my other diaries I don't argue every point, just in this diary and the last because people think Im a troll and I am not.

            And Im happy to hear counter arguments. None have been provided. I still don't understand why this diary is unjustifiable. I think it is perfectly legitimate.

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