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  •  I don't know how machines (3+ / 0-)
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    bear83, HudsonValleyMark, highacidity

    in other states work, but here,  you see a sample of the completed ballot and can go back and change anything.  If it wouldn't change and you haven't hit the cast ballot button (and the machine warns you not to until you have reviewed the ballot and made corrections,  then you can call over a poll worker, who will be able to directly verify that it won't let you change things at the sample ballot level and the machine is clearly broken.

    Everything else would sound like claptrap to me.

    •  something like that (4+ / 0-)
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      ItsSimpleSimon, highacidity, Sylv, jfromga

      Based on the story she told, she may not even have gotten that far: she tried to touch "Romney," "Obama" lit up, and she freaked -- before ever getting to the review screen.

      In principle, that could be due to bad aim, miscalibration, or a bit of both.

      Election protection: there's an app for that! -- and a toll-free hotline: 866-OUR-VOTE
      Better Know Your Voting System with the Verifier!

      by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 09:08:01 AM PDT

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      •  so it wasn't fatal to her attempt to vote (1+ / 0-)
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        and the poll workers couldn't get the machine to replicate the error, recalibrated it any way,  and this non-event is proof of something.  To a conservative fear based mind, that makes some kind of sense.

        •  gotta say, not just the conservative mind... (1+ / 0-)
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          People on my side have been arguing for years that the 2004 election was hacked because the election protection lines got something like 88 reports of "flips" from Kerry to Bush, and fewer than 10 in the reverse direction. I think that argument fails on multiple grounds. If ever an election is stolen through hacking, I don't expect the hack to announce itself to voters, although of course it is possible.

          There do appear to be a fair number of lousy voting machine touchscreens.

          Election protection: there's an app for that! -- and a toll-free hotline: 866-OUR-VOTE
          Better Know Your Voting System with the Verifier!

          by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 09:43:47 AM PDT

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          •  I stand corrected (1+ / 0-)
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            there's diary now about someone claiming deliberate vote flipping, but at least Mama checked the sample ballot and caught the error.

            •  apparently different scenario, definitely possible (1+ / 0-)
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              Without having a video camera running -- which I wouldn't recommend! -- there's no way to know whether the vote initially showed up as Obama and flipped to Romney on the review screen (which, of course, should never happen), or whether it initially showed up as Romney and she didn't notice until the review screen.

              I always hedge my bets because I know from personal experience that people, including me, don't always know what we saw.

              Either way, gotta check the review screen -- and, if there is a paper trail, gotta check that, too.

              Link to that diary in case it helps anyone else.

              Election protection: there's an app for that! -- and a toll-free hotline: 866-OUR-VOTE
              Better Know Your Voting System with the Verifier!

              by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 01:40:28 PM PDT

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