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  •  Marriage Equality Initiatives (1+ / 0-)
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    So we have 4 major battles here... anyone seen polls or have reports from the front lines?

    Maryland - Question 6 -- We already passed the law... Governor is wholeheartedly on-board.. and of course the troglodytes scraped up enough signatures from the primordial masses to put their fellow citizen's rights up for popular vote.  Fuck 'em... we'll pass it anyway.

    Washington - Referendum 74 -- Same as Maryland... Same response from same troglodytes.

    Maine -- Question 1 More pro-active version of the aforementioned "fuck 'em"approach.  Maine rams through some ass-hat legislative ban in 2009.  We will overturn it at the ballot box in 2012.  For every bigoted close-minded action there is an equal and opposite progressive We're-tired-of-your-ugly-fucking-hate reaction.  

    Minnesota -- Amendment 1  Another attempt to hard-code intolerance into a States founding document... in the Land of Franken, Wellstone and Klobochar no less!  The nerve of these people!  Anyway the advantage here is that every ballot that has no vote on this issue counts as a NO vote due to state laws about Constitution amendments.  So we should be able to shut this shit down easily.

    Those are the battle lines ladies and gentlemen... and just for a lil morning schadenfreude, here is how Redstate frames it:  

    Conservatives must realize what we are up against.  There is a strong and vocal minority of people in this country that are in a race to the bottom to radically alter the fabric of our nation to reflect that of the most decedent society conceivable.  If we don’t combat them now, all the other issues will be irrelevant.  There is no way we can have a society that is demanding anything and everything that is sordid, yet one that is austere and conservative regarding dependency, welfare, and entitlements.  Fiscal conservatism and family values are indissoluble.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 05:45:33 AM PDT

    •  to clarify (1+ / 0-)
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      the legislature actually unbanned gay marriage in 2009. it was the people of Maine who changed that. hopefully they've come to their senses this year.

      Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

      by sapelcovits on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 05:52:31 AM PDT

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      •  Oh yes, you are right. (1+ / 0-)
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        I have this innate mental block of accrediting the people of Maine with anything bad... this is known as the "I know Bill in Portland Maine on Dkos"effect, or more commonly as "Cheersandjeersitis".  Currently incurable.

        But alas... that is what happened.  

        Happily, we are poised to correct that momentary lapse of judgement by the Pine Tree Staters.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 06:02:35 AM PDT

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    •  Minnesota (0+ / 0-)

      As a Minnesota, and a DFLer, I cringed when you called it the land of "Franken Wellstone and Klobuchar'. Franken doesn't belong in that group at all. IF there were a "Mount Rushmore" of the DFL it'd be "The Land of Humphrey, MrCarthy, Mondale, and Welstone." Klobuchar has a chance to be in that sentence, but she hasn't earned that yet. And Franken is not even in the same world.

      •  Franken supported that Internet bill in its (0+ / 0-)

        original form.  Lost some progressive cred there.  Agreed he doesn't belong in the group.  

      •  Yes you've made this point before (3+ / 0-)
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        though I'm sure Mt Rushmore of DFL would spell the names right.  It's not a sin when people mention their names together, and the Mt Rushmore thing is a bit silly.

        Did Al Franken run over your dog at some point?

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:34:38 AM PDT

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        •  Haha. I didn't proof read (1+ / 0-)
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          And no, I have nothing against Franken. Let's look at the accomplishments of some of these people. Humphrey created the Party, served a long time in the senate, changed the culture of the state fundamentally such that the DFL would dominate the state for the better part of the next 70 years. He then served as Vice President of the United States. Franken on the other hand, has one razor thin victory against a crooked opponent, and can draw the 50 states free hand. It's not that Franken has done anything wrong since entering the senate, but he is not in the same world as people like Humphrey.

          •  The initial post (1+ / 0-)
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            was listing prominet Senators from Minnesota who are actually alive.  How you've gone off and complained about them being mentioned in the same sentence is beyond me.  

            Then look at the fact that the comment was in a post about gay marriage, and I'd say that Franken isn't demonstrably different from Klobuchar or Wellstone (post-2000) on the issue.  I believe Wellstone voted for DOMA, so I'd tend to think that w/r/t gay marriage maybe Wellstone doesn't belong on the same list as Franken/Klobuchar, no?

            And of course only you have brought Humphrey into the conversation.  No one even mentioned his name so it's way off base.  

            "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

            by rdw72777 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 08:52:48 AM PDT

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            •  Wellstone, unfortunately, has been gone a decade (0+ / 0-)

              I listed the first name on the list. I could go through person by person why the people I listed are in a different league than Franken. I don't see a point to that.

          •  you have nothing against Franken aside from (0+ / 0-)

            your fairly common complaint about him being a carpetbagger, which is arguable at best.

            ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

            by James Allen on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 09:33:36 AM PDT

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            •  That isn't personal. That's political (0+ / 0-)

              As a man, I have no problem with Franken. He is a good writer with decent acting abilities. But yes, moving to a state you left as a teenager just to run for political purposes is carpetbagging in my book.

      •  I used Franken and Klobochar (0+ / 0-)

        since they are current (as is this attempt to re-write the Constitution)

        ...and Wellstone because, well... if you are in Minnesota I'm sure I don't need to explain that to you.

        I am not MN-native and have seldom even been to the state, so I'll take your work on Mt-MinnRushmore nominees.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 09:15:53 AM PDT

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